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FINANCIAL CHRONICLE™ » DAILY CHRONICLE™ »  Sri Lankan farmers complain to HRC on government's failure to pay their pension

Sri Lankan farmers complain to HRC on government's failure to pay their pension

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Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Mar 22, Colombo: Farmers in Sri Lanka have complained to the Human Rights Commission (HRC) about the government's failure to pay the farmers' pension.

The All Ceylon Farmers' Federation says that the government has failed to pay the farmers' pension for one and a half years.

The Federation has complained to the HRC stating that the government's failure had violated the fundamental rights of the farmers.

National Organizer of the Federation, Namal Karunaratne after handing over the petition to the HRC said that while the farmers have not been paid the pension since November 2011, there was no information about the Rs.90 billion that was in the farmers' pension fund.

He added that the Federation would also resort to legal action to find out what had happened to the money.

Karunaratne noted that the farmers' pension fund was built with contributions from farmers and they had the right to know what happened to their monies.
http://www.colombopage.com/archive_13A/Mar22_1363934721JR.php

Whitebull


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
We need to search for the location of brain of these farmers.

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
@Whitebull wrote:We need to search for the location of brain of these farmers.

" while the farmers have not been
paid the pension since November 2011, there was no information about the
Rs.90 billion that was in the farmers' pension fund"

Isn' t this a concern if they have not got pension for 1.5 years? If they are entitled a pension they should get it. ( unless they are lying).

What action do you propose?

wiki


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
If country is not listening to genuine grievances of people... no option but to take it to international institutions

Whitebull


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@slstock wrote:
@Whitebull wrote:We need to search for the location of brain of these farmers.

" while the farmers have not been
paid the pension since November 2011, there was no information about the
Rs.90 billion that was in the farmers' pension fund"

Isn' t this a concern if they have not got pension for 1.5 years? If they are entitled a pension they should get it. ( unless they are lying).

What action do you propose?
Why can not they complain to national authorities and try to solve this problem in a wiser way rather than dragging so called international community ?

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Again , I am assuming farmers are not lying.


1) Who ever is responsible to pay these people, have failed their duties for 1.5 year. That is unforgivable.
These are not wealthy farmers and they may depend on this pension. To me this is a crime.

2) What if they already tried to appeal to Govn and after 1.5 years have no option

3) I do not know whether you have delt with govn departments, but as I have I know how inefficient they can be at times.



@Whitebull wrote:
@slstock wrote:
@Whitebull wrote:We need to search for the location of brain of these farmers.

" while the farmers have not been
paid the pension since November 2011, there was no information about the
Rs.90 billion that was in the farmers' pension fund"

Isn' t this a concern if they have not got pension for 1.5 years? If they are entitled a pension they should get it. ( unless they are lying).

What action do you propose?
Why can not they complain to national authorities and try to solve this problem in a wiser way rather than dragging so called international community ?

Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Because they are doing what our president done in JVP era, took those issues to the UNO no?

The Alchemist


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Whitebull wrote:
@slstock wrote:
@Whitebull wrote:We need to search for the location of brain of these farmers.

" while the farmers have not been
paid the pension since November 2011, there was no information about the
Rs.90 billion that was in the farmers' pension fund"

Isn' t this a concern if they have not got pension for 1.5 years? If they are entitled a pension they should get it. ( unless they are lying).

What action do you propose?
Why can not they complain to national authorities and try to solve this problem in a wiser way rather than dragging so called international community ?

Mar 22, Colombo: Farmers in Sri Lanka have complained to the Human Rights Commission (HRC) about the government's failure to pay the farmers' pension.

btw - This Humans Rights Commission is a local body and is not the Geneva Organisation.

Whitebull


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Redbulls wrote:Because they are doing what our president done in JVP era, took those issues to the UNO no?
He had gone to the UNO not because of stomach but to save lives. Another point to mention is, Was their any thing done by UNO at that time ? There was no human rights for Sinhala youth at that era. This is another good example for double crossed action by UNO.

Whitebull


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@slstock wrote:Again , I am assuming farmers are not lying.


1) Who ever is responsible to pay these people, have failed their duties for 1.5 year. That is unforgivable.
These are not wealthy farmers and they may depend on this pension. To me this is a crime.

2) What if they already tried to appeal to Govn and after 1.5 years have no option

3) I do not know whether you have delt with govn departments, but as I have I know how inefficient they can be at times.



@Whitebull wrote:
@slstock wrote:
@Whitebull wrote:We need to search for the location of brain of these farmers.

" while the farmers have not been
paid the pension since November 2011, there was no information about the
Rs.90 billion that was in the farmers' pension fund"

Isn' t this a concern if they have not got pension for 1.5 years? If they are entitled a pension they should get it. ( unless they are lying).

What action do you propose?
Why can not they complain to national authorities and try to solve this problem in a wiser way rather than dragging so called international community ?
If local authorities are not responding they can file a court case. And if they have complained to local human right commission as mention by Alchemist we should support them.
And I hope that you are intelligent enough to understand the consequences of dragging hypocritic so called international community in to local matters.

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
You are correct Alchem. I was going to add this but forgot to in my previous comment.

@The Alchemist wrote:

btw - This Humans Rights Commission is a local body and is not the Geneva Organisation.

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Do not drag my intelligence to this topic.


The person with the wound knows the pain. I feel the pain if I was not paid for 1.,5 years. I don;t care what govn is in power and I do no have political bias.

If your concern is regarding going to International community you seem to dislike a lot , HRC has a local body as Alchem pointed out . Also I don;t think Farmers will be that crazy to drag matters of such to geneva )

I too have personal experience with local HRC .



@Whitebull wrote:If local authorities are not responding they can file a court case. And if they have complained to local human right commission as mention by Alchemist we should support them.
And I hope that you are intelligent enough to understand the consequences of dragging hypocritic so called international community in to local matters.

Whitebull


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@slstock wrote:Do not drag my intelligence to this topic.


The person with the wound knows the pain. I feel the pain if I was not paid for 1.,5 years. I don;t care what govn is in power and I do no have political bias.

If your concern is regarding going to International community you seem to dislike a lot , HRC has a local body as Alchem pointed out . Also I don;t think Farmers will be that crazy to drag matters of such to geneva )

I too have personal experience with local HRC .



@Whitebull wrote:If local authorities are not responding they can file a court case. And if they have complained to local human right commission as mention by Alchemist we should support them.
And I hope that you are intelligent enough to understand the consequences of dragging hypocritic so called international community in to local matters.
Yes of course my concern is regarding going to SO CALLED HYPOCRITIC International community. If they(SCHIC) are genuine I have not got any worries. But they are biased and waiting for another opportunity to interfere in to our affairs which will have really bad consequences.
I can also feel the pain of wounded people but I can also see the consequences of their emotional actions to overcome that pain. So that we should not become as emotional as them and say yes to their emotional actions but we should show them bad consequences of their actions and should show them the more wiser pathway to solve their problem.

Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
A lot of Hypocritics we can find in our country also, including some in our forum also.

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Whitebull and anyone who is interested in my opinion


For future reference I want you to know that I treat humans on merit . Not on colour, race , religion or political interest.
I will judge people by what they do and say over a longer period of time. I will support anyone who is genuine. Local or foreigner. ( But when it comes to local matter when selecting foerigner over locals I will give preference to locals).


Not all foreigners are bad . And yes I have met plenty of good ones. Some of them even sympathize with Sri Lanka. Just because some politicians of certain countries ( including ours) play games to their fancy , it does not generally speak the stand of all people of any country.



You tend to categorize anything to do with foreigners as "Hypocritic International community". I do not like that. There are good humans and bad one in any country.

To be balanced we should admit the wrong and uphold the right irrespective of who they are.

Further more , below is how I see this "international conspiracy" against sri lanka. All of thiis might go away if we play a smart politics and try to resolve issues in a transparent way. Already international community aqccepted and ackwoledged the progress done. Do non of you see that this resolution is so diluted . US and others have softened their stand.


http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t26821-updates-on-latest-un-resolution#157030



@Whitebull wrote:
@slstock wrote:Do not drag my intelligence to this topic.


The person with the wound knows the pain. I feel the pain if I was not paid for 1.,5 years. I don;t care what govn is in power and I do no have political bias.

If your concern is regarding going to International community you seem to dislike a lot , HRC has a local body as Alchem pointed out . Also I don;t think Farmers will be that crazy to drag matters of such to geneva )

I too have personal experience with local HRC .



@Whitebull wrote:If local authorities are not responding they can file a court case. And if they have complained to local human right commission as mention by Alchemist we should support them.
And I hope that you are intelligent enough to understand the consequences of dragging hypocritic so called international community in to local matters.
Yes of course my concern is regarding going to SO CALLED HYPOCRITIC International community. If they(SCHIC) are genuine I have not got any worries. But they are biased and waiting for another opportunity to interfere in to our affairs which will have really bad consequences.
I can also feel the pain of wounded people but I can also see the consequences of their emotional actions to overcome that pain. So that we should not become as emotional as them and say yes to their emotional actions but we should show them bad consequences of their actions and should show them the more wiser pathway to solve their problem.

Whitebull


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@slstock wrote:Whitebull and anyone who is interested in my opinion


For future reference I want you to know that I treat humans on merit . Not on colour, race , religion or political interest.
I will judge people by what they do and say over a longer period of time. I will support anyone who is genuine. Local or foreigner. ( But when it comes to local matter when selecting foerigner over locals I will give preference to locals).


Not all foreigners are bad . And yes I have met plenty of good ones. Some of them even sympathize with Sri Lanka. Just because some politicians of certain countries ( including ours) play games to their fancy , it does not generally speak the stand of all people of any country.



You tend to categorize anything to do with foreigners as "Hypocritic International community". I do not like that. There are good humans and bad one in any country.

To be balanced we should admit the wrong and uphold the right irrespective of who they are.

Further more , below is how I see this "international conspiracy" against sri lanka. All of thiis might go away if we play a smart politics and try to resolve issues in a transparent way. Already international community aqccepted and ackwoledged the progress done. Do non of you see that this resolution is so diluted . US and others have softened their stand.


http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t26821-updates-on-latest-un-resolution#157030



@Whitebull wrote:
@slstock wrote:Do not drag my intelligence to this topic.


The person with the wound knows the pain. I feel the pain if I was not paid for 1.,5 years. I don;t care what govn is in power and I do no have political bias.

If your concern is regarding going to International community you seem to dislike a lot , HRC has a local body as Alchem pointed out . Also I don;t think Farmers will be that crazy to drag matters of such to geneva )

I too have personal experience with local HRC .



@Whitebull wrote:If local authorities are not responding they can file a court case. And if they have complained to local human right commission as mention by Alchemist we should support them.
And I hope that you are intelligent enough to understand the consequences of dragging hypocritic so called international community in to local matters.
Yes of course my concern is regarding going to SO CALLED HYPOCRITIC International community. If they(SCHIC) are genuine I have not got any worries. But they are biased and waiting for another opportunity to interfere in to our affairs which will have really bad consequences.
I can also feel the pain of wounded people but I can also see the consequences of their emotional actions to overcome that pain. So that we should not become as emotional as them and say yes to their emotional actions but we should show them bad consequences of their actions and should show them the more wiser pathway to solve their problem.
I think you have seriously misunderstood me. I am not against international community. That is why I always put SO CALLED in front of that phrase. And I am also not against Americans. There are genuine people there also. Sometime it is easy to work with them rather than our people. But I am against with people who acts hypocritically. Unfortunately policy makers of some of those countries act in hypocritic passion. They uses one spoon for their friendly countries and another spoon for other countries.
And I am also against this cultural terrorism(which includes political and economical fraction) which is coming in the name of globalization.

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Related to the topic why are these poor farmers treated with a different spoon for 1.5 years then?

Don;t you see there are such people and politicians in Sri Lanka who act the same as below?
This is not a foreign only problem.


@Whitebull wrote:

But I am against with people who acts hypocritically. Unfortunately policy makers of some of those countries act in hypocritic passion. They uses one spoon for their friendly countries and another spoon for other countries.

Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
@slstock
Polite reminder.
Your wasting your valuable time.

Whitebull


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@slstock wrote:Related to the topic why are these poor farmers treated with a different spoon for 1.5 years then?

Don;t you see there are such people and politicians in Sri Lanka who act the same as below?
This is not a foreign only problem.


@Whitebull wrote:

But I am against with people who acts hypocritically. Unfortunately policy makers of some of those countries act in hypocritic passion. They uses one spoon for their friendly countries and another spoon for other countries.
I am fed up Mr. I do not want to prove myself to you. Person who do not have bias idea about me can understand who I am by reading my posts. On the other hand I know who I am. So it does not matter to me even others do not understand me.
To end this I would like to say you win ,I am biased and I can not see about our politicians hypocritic nature. Atleast now I hope you wish to take a fullstop to this.

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Have you ever thought for a moment why people don't understand you the way you want? Is it totally their problem?

I am writing the below as a mark of respect for all those conversation we had. Over the last 2 years I spent so much time on you as I tried to appreciat the "patriotism" you talk about. I wasted time on PMs even. Came to your rescue at times when others went agaisnt you. I did that with a unbiased mind.

But you last response made me think who you really are.

I asked a simple question. You could have either agreed hypocrisy exist all other the world or say why these farmers where not done injustice if you want to disprove . You decided to talk in a different way. In a educated discussion you learn to argue with facts , compromise or sometiems even agree when the other is right.

All I expected from you is to be broad minded and be balanced as Sri Lanka needs such people to develop the country tactfully.

If you want to make other see you as a unbiased person easiest solution maybe to talk and act like one so they see you in the correct spirit.


I wrote this as a mark of respect for the several years I spent with you. Full stop. Agree or disagree is upto you.



@Whitebull wrote:
@slstock wrote:Related to the topic why are these poor farmers treated with a different spoon for 1.5 years then?

Don;t you see there are such people and politicians in Sri Lanka who act the same as below?
This is not a foreign only problem.


@Whitebull wrote:

But I am against with people who acts hypocritically. Unfortunately policy makers of some of those countries act in hypocritic passion. They uses one spoon for their friendly countries and another spoon for other countries.
I am fed up Mr. I do not want to prove myself to you. Person who do not have bias idea about me can understand who I am by reading my posts. On the other hand I know who I am. So it does not matter to me even others do not understand me.
To end this I would like to say you win ,I am biased and I can not see about our politicians hypocritic nature. Atleast now I hope you wish to take a fullstop to this.

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