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1Why VONE and PABC stopped? Empty Why VONE and PABC stopped? Thu May 09, 2013 1:10 pm

bullrun

bullrun
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
VONE and PABC have taken a holt. Why is that? Shall we move little forward.

2Why VONE and PABC stopped? Empty Re: Why VONE and PABC stopped? Thu May 09, 2013 1:31 pm

salt

salt
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
දන්නේ නැහැ අනේ......
අපිත් මේ බලන්නේ මොකෝ කියලා

මේ පාරත් කට්ටිය අපිට අරිය වගේ නේ මෙයා .......

3Why VONE and PABC stopped? Empty Re: Why VONE and PABC stopped? Thu May 09, 2013 1:42 pm

micky

micky
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@salt wrote:දන්නේ නැහැ අනේ......
අපිත් මේ බලන්නේ මොකෝ කියලා

මේ පාරත් කට්ටිය අපිට අරිය වගේ නේ මෙයා .......

check posts properly, VONE lovers said that its long term and hv to hold 5 years. Very Happy

4Why VONE and PABC stopped? Empty Re: Why VONE and PABC stopped? Thu May 09, 2013 2:00 pm

salt

salt
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
මචන්
කොස් ඇට ටිකක් අරන් අළු දල තියාගන්න අවුරුදු 5

even that will be good in 5 years

5Why VONE and PABC stopped? Empty Re: Why VONE and PABC stopped? Thu May 09, 2013 2:07 pm

seek


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
IPO price of VONE was 25.

At IPO, Dhammika promised only for building a 5 star hotel under 100% owned subsidiary Green Water Ltd.

Dhammika never promised to by Delmeage and Orit Apparel. He never mentioned about building a Tile monopoly.

Now, he has held his IPO promise and expanded its baby VONE by more than 100%.

This company deserves a huge correction for its future value.
I personally think giving up the hotel is a good idea. When all are building hotels, you don’t need to do the same.


6Why VONE and PABC stopped? Empty Re: Why VONE and PABC stopped? Thu May 09, 2013 2:13 pm

micky

micky
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@salt wrote:මචන්
කොස් ඇට ටිකක් අරන් අළු දල තියාගන්න අවුරුදු 5

even that will be good in 5 years

haha agree, its not my words, I hv mentioned what VONE lovers said. if u can wait 5 years there r better shares than VONE Smile

7Why VONE and PABC stopped? Empty Re: Why VONE and PABC stopped? Thu May 09, 2013 3:24 pm

salt

salt
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
though we joke here, equity is long term investment
those who invest with long term purpose are the winners
starting from Buffet to Prince Alwaleed to KDDP... all are long term investors

8Why VONE and PABC stopped? Empty Re: Why VONE and PABC stopped? Thu May 09, 2013 6:36 pm

cseguide

cseguide
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
VONE has done magical acquisitions unto now
They will do it in future as well.
Who even thought of a monopoly in Tile & Aluminum industry
They think far than anyone

9Why VONE and PABC stopped? Empty Re: Why VONE and PABC stopped? Thu May 09, 2013 8:25 pm

stocks hunter


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Dear Micky,

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I think u are referring to my post about the 5 year time period for VONE.

I Mentioned few examples there as well. DP bought LFIN from Rs 5.50 levels up to Rs 20 levels from the mkt. I subscribe for LFIN @ IPO Rs 20 and the very first day it came to mkt @ Rs 18. from that day onwards I hold LFIN for couple of years. it came to Rs 5.50 levels or even lesser price which I can't remember now.
I was so happy to sell it to DP at the mkt for Rs 20. You what has happened to LFIN after that day. Yes after a period of 5 years (not exacly sure the time frame)it went to Rs 550 levels + couple of 1:1 bonus issues + hefty dividend of Rs 5 each for couple of years. You can't even think of the amount that I invested in LFIN @ the IPO. It was 25000 shares. Just imagine I would have been a billioner by now if I didn't sell my holding on that day. Same thing happened to CONN, VFIN, HAYL as well. but not the same story.

Now look here VONE is only 2 years old holding company now. it went through the bad period of CSE. It had to face toughest economic environment one of the biggest in sri Lankan economy during last two years.

They have collected IPO money to construct a 382 room, luxurious five star resort. apart from that they did several healthy acquisitions for this two years. Delmege acquisition and the lanka ceramic through subsidiary RCL.

Just think CITW and CITK trading at Rs 8.50 and 6.5 levels without nothing in it. only the construction is going on. BBH is trading well above Rs 21 levels - still under construction.BINN is trading 75 levels nothing their. Even GREG is trading Rs 18 levels with several loss making companies under their belt.

Just see the value of VONE by now on that grounds. Shares of diversified companies always trades with a premium to its EPS, NAV etc... etc.. That the nature of that sector. check with JKH, HAYL, CFLB........

I don't like to burn my fingers for the second time by selling my Q in VONE in early stage, at least half of LFIN......... .Who knows what's DPs next agenda. SAMP / HAYL to Vone....... Kidding.... Very Happy just wait and see once foreigners starts the taste of it u can't catch it. JKH going against pundiths, fundamentals why the foreign interest.

just see the links for your interest

01.http://www.ft.lk/2011/01/17/investors-rush-for-vallibel-one/

02.http://www.vallibelone.com/summer_season.php

Are u clear buy now?

good luck.

10Why VONE and PABC stopped? Empty Re: Why VONE and PABC stopped? Thu May 09, 2013 9:03 pm

micky

micky
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@stocks hunter wrote:Dear Micky,

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I think u are referring to my post about the 5 year time period for VONE.

I Mentioned few examples there as well. DP bought LFIN from Rs 5.50 levels up to Rs 20 levels from the mkt. I subscribe for LFIN @ IPO Rs 20 and the very first day it came to mkt @ Rs 18. from that day onwards I hold LFIN for couple of years. it came to Rs 5.50 levels or even lesser price which I can't remember now.
I was so happy to sell it to DP at the mkt for Rs 20. You what has happened to LFIN after that day. Yes after a period of 5 years (not exacly sure the time frame)it went to Rs 550 levels + couple of 1:1 bonus issues + hefty dividend of Rs 5 each for couple of years. You can't even think of the amount that I invested in LFIN @ the IPO. It was 25000 shares. Just imagine I would have been a billioner by now if I didn't sell my holding on that day. Same thing happened to CONN, VFIN, HAYL as well. but not the same story.

Now look here VONE is only 2 years old holding company now. it went through the bad period of CSE. It had to face toughest economic environment one of the biggest in sri Lankan economy during last two years.

They have collected IPO money to construct a 382 room, luxurious five star resort. apart from that they did several healthy acquisitions for this two years. Delmege acquisition and the lanka ceramic through subsidiary RCL.

Just think CITW and CITK trading at Rs 8.50 and 6.5 levels without nothing in it. only the construction is going on. BBH is trading well above Rs 21 levels - still under construction.BINN is trading 75 levels nothing their. Even GREG is trading Rs 18 levels with several loss making companies under their belt.

Just see the value of VONE by now on that grounds. Shares of diversified companies always trades with a premium to its EPS, NAV etc... etc.. That the nature of that sector. check with JKH, HAYL, CFLB........

I don't like to burn my fingers for the second time by selling my Q in VONE in early stage, at least half of LFIN......... .Who knows what's DPs next agenda. SAMP / HAYL to Vone....... Kidding.... Very Happy just wait and see once foreigners starts the taste of it u can't catch it. JKH going against pundiths, fundamentals why the foreign interest.

just see the links for your interest

01.http://www.ft.lk/2011/01/17/investors-rush-for-vallibel-one/

02.http://www.vallibelone.com/summer_season.php

Are u clear buy now?

good luck.

hello friend,

Thanx for the valuable info.

I am not against VONE. these are my posts.

post no 1: check posts properly, VONE lovers said that its long term and hv to hold 5 years.

this mean our friend "salt" cant expect short term gain.

post no 2: haha agree, its not my words, I hv mentioned what VONE lovers said. if u can wait 5 years there r better shares than VONE

this mean nobody like to hold for five years. and there are few other interesting shares, if someone can allocate money for 5 years. for 5 years hv to think further and further,decide to invest in bests.

investors buy VONE these days to make short term profits. not to keep for 5 years. i think thats the reality.

one more thing to add, i like ur LFIN story, BUT it includes manipulation. thats why reach 550? agree? if not correct me.
so when deciding to invest for five years you consider about manipulation factor too. I dnt think its wrong. totally its up to u as final result is profit.(money Very Happy )


I am not against VONE. check my post

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t27886p25-next-winner-will-be-vone#164203

I have clearly mentioned that if someone has VONE below 20, not to sell now.

as everybody knows VONE has political advantage too. its a huge thing in a country like sri lanka.

11Why VONE and PABC stopped? Empty Re: Why VONE and PABC stopped? Thu May 09, 2013 10:18 pm

stocks hunter


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
dear micky,

Every body cann't do trading,specially day trading. just check one day u can earn couple of lakhs and the later u have to take a lost. its called trading. otherwise after a successfull trading u have to leave the mkt to protect your earn money.

Share trading is an art.its for a long term investments. warren buffet did it. some others did it. DP did it. Then only u can reap reall benefits out of the mkt. after that once again u can select a best company and do the investment.

Not only LFIN all most every individual share in the mkt went up in 2010. so u cann't blame only to LFIN.

Another couple of examples. HNB issue price was Rs 500 in 1973. Eeven u invest 100 shares in the IPO by today u are a millioner. check with their history bonus issues , right issues, dividend payments. 10 Years back SAMP was trading at Rs 35 levels. and at that time VANIK was trading at Rs 100 levels. Just see the different. selection of the sectors, future prospects, management, every thing we have to consider. HNBA issued to mkt @ Rs 12. 04 years back SEYB N was at Rs 20 levels.SEYB X was trading below Rs 10 levels.

if u are greedy for money that's the end of it. by way of investments u can earn lots of money with a very small capital. low risk. if the opportunity comes your way u can plough it, and the period does not matter.

but in SL many thinks that the share trading is for earn quick money. that's called gambling. u can experince the difference by doing both ways. open another a/c with another brocker. just purchase shares to that a/c with a view of long term. try with even 10, 50, 100 shares to see the difference.

Tx.

12Why VONE and PABC stopped? Empty Re: Why VONE and PABC stopped? Thu May 09, 2013 10:43 pm

micky

micky
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@stocks hunter wrote:dear micky,

Every body cann't do trading,specially day trading. just check one day u can earn couple of lakhs and the later u have to take a lost. its called trading. otherwise after a successfull trading u have to leave the mkt to protect your earn money.

Share trading is an art.its for a long term investments. warren buffet did it. some others did it. DP did it. Then only u can reap reall benefits out of the mkt. after that once again u can select a best company and do the investment.

Not only LFIN all most every individual share in the mkt went up in 2010. so u cann't blame only to LFIN.

Another couple of examples. HNB issue price was Rs 500 in 1973. Eeven u invest 100 shares in the IPO by today u are a millioner. check with their history bonus issues , right issues, dividend payments. 10 Years back SAMP was trading at Rs 35 levels. and at that time VANIK was trading at Rs 100 levels. Just see the different. selection of the sectors, future prospects, management, every thing we have to consider. HNBA issued to mkt @ Rs 12. 04 years back SEYB N was at Rs 20 levels.SEYB X was trading below Rs 10 levels.

if u are greedy for money that's the end of it. by way of investments u can earn lots of money with a very small capital. low risk. if the opportunity comes your way u can plough it, and the period does not matter.

but in SL many thinks that the share trading is for earn quick money. that's called gambling. u can experince the difference by doing both ways. open another a/c with another brocker. just purchase shares to that a/c with a view of long term. try with even 10, 50, 100 shares to see the difference.

Tx.

thanx agree with u 100%. i did not promote or like day trading. i do investments for long term.

13Why VONE and PABC stopped? Empty Re: Why VONE and PABC stopped? Thu May 09, 2013 10:51 pm

seek


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Stock hunter, VONE is a 1b shares company. expecting 4-5 baggers not easy as some of ur examples but agree with u on long term value.

14Why VONE and PABC stopped? Empty Re: Why VONE and PABC stopped? Thu May 09, 2013 10:53 pm

stocks hunter


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
correction

HNB issued price to the public Was Rs 50/ in 1973 but not Rs 500. sorry for the mistake.

tx

15Why VONE and PABC stopped? Empty Re: Why VONE and PABC stopped? Thu May 09, 2013 11:05 pm

micky

micky
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@stocks hunter wrote:correction

HNB issued price to the public Was Rs 50/ in 1973 but not Rs 500. sorry for the mistake.

tx

np. Smile

16Why VONE and PABC stopped? Empty Re: Why VONE and PABC stopped? Thu May 09, 2013 11:15 pm

cseguide

cseguide
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@stocks hunter wrote:Dear Micky,

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I think u are referring to my post about the 5 year time period for VONE.

I Mentioned few examples there as well. DP bought LFIN from Rs 5.50 levels up to Rs 20 levels from the mkt. I subscribe for LFIN @ IPO Rs 20 and the very first day it came to mkt @ Rs 18. from that day onwards I hold LFIN for couple of years. it came to Rs 5.50 levels or even lesser price which I can't remember now.
I was so happy to sell it to DP at the mkt for Rs 20. You what has happened to LFIN after that day. Yes after a period of 5 years (not exacly sure the time frame)it went to Rs 550 levels + couple of 1:1 bonus issues + hefty dividend of Rs 5 each for couple of years. You can't even think of the amount that I invested in LFIN @ the IPO. It was 25000 shares. Just imagine I would have been a billioner by now if I didn't sell my holding on that day. Same thing happened to CONN, VFIN, HAYL as well. but not the same story.

Now look here VONE is only 2 years old holding company now. it went through the bad period of CSE. It had to face toughest economic environment one of the biggest in sri Lankan economy during last two years.

They have collected IPO money to construct a 382 room, luxurious five star resort. apart from that they did several healthy acquisitions for this two years. Delmege acquisition and the lanka ceramic through subsidiary RCL.

Just think CITW and CITK trading at Rs 8.50 and 6.5 levels without nothing in it. only the construction is going on. BBH is trading well above Rs 21 levels - still under construction.BINN is trading 75 levels nothing their. Even GREG is trading Rs 18 levels with several loss making companies under their belt.

Just see the value of VONE by now on that grounds. Shares of diversified companies always trades with a premium to its EPS, NAV etc... etc.. That the nature of that sector. check with JKH, HAYL, CFLB........

I don't like to burn my fingers for the second time by selling my Q in VONE in early stage, at least half of LFIN......... .Who knows what's DPs next agenda. SAMP / HAYL to Vone....... Kidding.... Very Happy just wait and see once foreigners starts the taste of it u can't catch it. JKH going against pundiths, fundamentals why the foreign interest.

just see the links for your interest

01.http://www.ft.lk/2011/01/17/investors-rush-for-vallibel-one/

02.http://www.vallibelone.com/summer_season.php

Are u clear buy now?

good luck.
agree with you

17Why VONE and PABC stopped? Empty Re: Why VONE and PABC stopped? Thu May 09, 2013 11:25 pm

KDDND

KDDND
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Hi All!

Good Arguments and Explanations......
yan yan ohoma yan.....
cheers

18Why VONE and PABC stopped? Empty Re: Why VONE and PABC stopped? Thu May 09, 2013 11:38 pm

micky

micky
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
the thing is stock hunter misunderstood me. I did not promote short term gambling.

" investors buy VONE these days to make short term profits. not to keep for 5 years. i think thats the reality "

people expect short term gains. its not the proper way. but thats the reality. thats why i hv mentioned.

people buy VONE with sudden interest.

check the topic " Why VONE and PABC stopped? " so, this topic for 5 years?????????

again im not against VONE.

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t27886p25-next-winner-will-be-vone#164203


anyone can say im against VONE and i promote short term using my posts??

thanx

19Why VONE and PABC stopped? Empty Re: Why VONE and PABC stopped? Thu May 09, 2013 11:48 pm

sandunj


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@micky wrote:the thing is stock hunter misunderstood me. I did not promote short term gambling.

" investors buy VONE these days to make short term profits. not to keep for 5 years. i think thats the reality "

people expect short term gains. its not the proper way. but thats the reality. thats why i hv mentioned.

people buy VONE with sudden interest.

check the topic " Why VONE and PABC stopped? " so, this topic for 5 years?????????

again im not against VONE.

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t27886p25-next-winner-will-be-vone#164203


anyone can say im against VONE and i promote short term using my posts??

thanx

Well said & good explainations... With current market senario Agreed...

20Why VONE and PABC stopped? Empty Re: Why VONE and PABC stopped? Fri May 10, 2013 1:02 am

traderathome

traderathome
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
in my view the correction is either happening to 19ish from 22 as predicted, if price dont alter too much tomorrow then expecting to happen at around 25ish by 3Rs at least.
if the BULL in the china shop can be tamed....otherwise no guarantee

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