Market may down another 550 points

Its ethical to state the source when u post a news item stocks hunter.. Its a forum rule too..

Teller wrote:Yeh buddy,I have 9years+ in the market. I earned lot of because of cse.I love it so much. I have a golden way across the cse. When I buy lfin 32+ and sold 420+, bfl-70+ and sold 390+,alli-600+ and sold 1500+,neh-650 sold 1700,CRL-14+ sold 50+ and many more . I earned little loss too. But I use my own research and my own way. These are true ,mother swear.also I have 8+ financial industry experience both locally and overseas .I keep my big eye to best buy.that's the secreat of any investment.buy low as well as quality.luck

550 points down mean 1000 points from uptrend (max- 6500). It never happened after 2011 fall because it was so long and no economic support. For best of my knowledge mkt wouldnt go beyond 5800. Even that is impossible unless any miracle happen. It is highly possible it could reach 7000 within 1 year. I just wonder how you made this profit with this much of pessimistic thinking??? Predicting 5500 level remind me guys who predicted 2500 level when mkt slashed from 5400-4700...Let c in 2 months time...

Will there be a lot of panic selling now?should I sell my portfolio?pls.clarify

dudi wrote:Will there be a lot of panic selling now?should I sell my portfolio?pls.clarify

Tellers backup accounts doing a good job,next he will say yes,sell it.

dudi wrote:Will there be a lot of panic selling now?should I sell my portfolio?pls.clarify

They say foreigners know better than us buddy

Thank you teller. for your honest and bravery

sad.. this is not a place talking about different thought

I don't have any backup accounts or I dont force you to buy or sell.I trust always my car ..my petrol theory.you may do lot of mistakes even I did. But don't repeat your mistakes.think before others ..,guess before others.buy when they sell.sell when they buy. Every one want profit.

Teller cant tell stories and panic the general public.It's time for you to vanish now.

Teller r u serious man? I have a pf and I want to sell it now

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I am selling too

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My dear source is there no. Can't u see it?

Dear chinwi ,I never sell my stocks in a loss.people say various names like average method,sell high in a loss and buy in bottom what ever .I do my own way.don't make panic because of me.I stated my own idea after my carefully studies.don't be a follower.get the knowledge then no one can play with you.don't let them others to make you pool.I never wanted to play with your hard earned money.

Teller today market up no. I sold my pf because of you.aiyo what is happening?

dudi wrote:Teller today market up no. I sold my pf because of you.aiyo what is happening?

nikan boru nokiya hitapan ban.

Teller wrote:Dear chinwi ,I never sell my stocks in a loss.people say various names like average method,sell high in a loss and buy in bottom what ever .I do my own way.don't make panic because of me.I stated my own idea after my carefully studies.don't be a follower.get the knowledge then no one can play with you.don't let them others to make you pool.I never wanted to play with your hard earned money.

"This is the time to exit on stock market and wait.market will(AsI) may down another 550 points surely.wait and see.no need to argue."

Doesn't it contradict??? Before you advise please stand clear properly.... You became joker today... I am not sure about the market, up and downs are cycles, but your stand just suddenly changed when mkt took u turn.. Yesterday asctally mkt was up if JKH was not traded as it dragged 20 points. U simply thought mkt is down and put useless posts on forums.. You also learn from failures- shouldn't start any topic without proper analysis...

Yes Jana1.you are right. Teller is a useless joker. I sold my pf at a loss.aparade

dudi wrote:Yes Jana1.you are right. Teller is a useless joker. I sold my pf at a loss.aparade

 Teller maybe a useless joker but you are idiot. even your name is no ? i dud

dudi is the short form of dudliy.your definition is wrong

Nonsense! There have been excellent news during the last few days - we also have an attractive market P/E. This is the time to invest

now is the time that you can start buying best counters. today onward market keep green for about 3 weeks. then you can see a red market. on and off there may be red days.but ..............GL for all

Of course market will be attractive but not at the moment.not in this year. Most of the shares are reaching 52 week low prices.it's better to keep attention buy in lowest for a period of one year. More chances to collect good shares in coming days. Do the home work to identify total return is more than 10% or higher.find out the companies which give regular dividends.when TJL trades at 7.00 ,there dividend percentage from the market price is 28%.when CTC trades 500.00 their percentage is 9 (45/500)*% , consider more in dividends. Agree that paying more dividends like sucking the blood. But if company doesn't have more reinvestments for what internal financing.we have to take the profit out for time to time.it's just like a liquidity of your investment. We want a cash generated business, people think that invest on shares like investment on lands.some times lands give additional income rather than capital gain .suppose if you buy a coconut land you will get coconuts.you can sell those regulary and earn cash than getting total land sale. Share is a part ownership of a company. We expect profit as investors without exchanging the ownership. So you will get attractive gains by investing with high dividend payout companies.

sixpence none the richer..

Guys let Teller keep on telling.. Ok take out the market up/down non-sense, what Teller tells us abt dividends is true.. A good explanation too..

Some consider dividend stocks, u stick to JKH, LLUB, NEST like shares cuz they issue dividends 4 times a year.. Multinationals want to take out money to their home country so a good portion of earnings comes as a div yearly.
Now u can find such companies and buy some shares.

Then there are companies affected by seasonal effects.. Like plantations, hydro, etc... Their growth is not tremendous but in some years they come up really better.. so we need to enter these in these cycles.

Apart from that there are companies with steady growth - qtr to qtr or YOY they show revenue growth.. These are good pics - some call them gems. BFL was one of a kind those days as it didnt have much debts to pay.

Some prefer easy understood business models - so its easy to track down the growth

Teller wrote:Of course market will be attractive but not at the moment.not in this year. Most of the shares are reaching   52 week low prices.it's better to keep attention buy in lowest for a period of one year. More chances to collect good shares in coming days. Do the home work to identify total return is more than 10% or higher.find out the companies which give regular dividends.when TJL trades at 7.00 ,there dividend percentage from the market price is 28%.when CTC trades 500.00 their percentage is 9  (45/500)*% , consider more in dividends. Agree that paying more dividends like sucking the blood. But if company doesn't have more reinvestments for what internal financing.we have to take the profit out for time to time.it's just like a liquidity of your investment. We want a cash generated business, people think that invest on shares like investment on lands.some times lands give additional income rather than capital gain .suppose if you buy a coconut land you will get coconuts.you can sell those regulary and earn cash than getting total land sale. Share is a part ownership of a company. We expect profit as investors without exchanging the ownership. So you will get attractive gains by investing with high dividend payout companies.

Teller, Re Dividends - 

1. Firstly, i think you may be dreaming if you think you can buy CTC @ Rs 500 or TJL @ Rs 7.
even if TJL were to be at Rs 7/- the Dividend Payout would have to be Rs 2.50 for you to have a dividend yield of 28 %. do you honestly believe they can pay such a dividend (when their FY 2013 EPS is Rs 1.55) and even if so, will you be able to get the share at Rs 7 ?   

2. Foreign Funds come to Frontier Markets like Sri-Lanka and like to invest in Multinational Companies like NEST, CTC, LLUB amd other Blue Chips Like JKH etc not for the Dividends. They come as a Portfolio diversification / allocation strategy looking for Capital Gains, paying the premiums for illiquidity etc, due to the favourable Risk / Reward trade offs. just look at Janus. they bought JKH @ 160 some time back. They didnt buy expecting a Rs 3 Dividend. For a Foreign Fund, the exchange rate risk they take due to a Rupee devaluation means they need to look beyond dividend yields.

3. Even for a local Investor, the Dividends yields are very unattractive when you consider Inflation and the Price Premium for Asset Value. Why should i pay 3,4, 10, 20 ,30 times book value to get a dividend yield which is way below the Inflation rate. It is the same as buying a 1 million (face value) FD paying 30 % interest for 10 Million to get a 3 % dividend yield when inflation is much higher. unless Of course you buy a share like JINS, decent Dividend Yield, Price close to BV and low p/e. but this is rare. you have to look for similiar stocks and not expect shares like TJL & CTC to half in value and become attractive dividend yielders as it simply wont happen for that exact reason. (i.e. everybody will demand it for yield especially if interest rates are low).        

4. Company Dividend Policy - varies from company to company. Just because a company pays out 90-95 % of their profits as dividends may not necessarily be a good thing.They may not need the cash for capex, expansion  or growth. maybe they are in mature industries. and just bcos they pay 90-95 % of their profits, the share price may be high and thus the actual dividend yield low. Other companies that do not pay good dividends maybe re-investing their internally generated cash aggresively and growing their business, revenues and assets. The dividends foregone today may lead to capital gains in the future. there maybe some companies stuck in the muddle of both above strategies. bottom line, looking for dividends in a high inflation frontier stock market may not make very much sense especially for retail investors & traders. sometimes you will also observe how ex dividend, stocks adjust downward more than the actual dividend paid like for eg Sampath.

slstock, without giving any valid reason Teller says market would drop by another 550 points. Why not you make your attention to this statement and request him to make statement with valid reasons and so on ?Poor members (new to stock trading) will sell their PF with a loss otherwise.

https://i.servimg.com/u/f82/17/82/21/04/asi14.png , pls ref above, unfortunately I can't upload drafts through my system. I didn't predict the market my own way. All economies are performing towardsrds to crisis.US economy 1.8% slow down.SL economy didn't perform as expected in last quarter .commodities market collapsed.balance of payment crisis on the way.plantation wage hike on the way.market PE ratio is attractive but are satis with the 75% of finance companies performances.leading finance company in kegalle's struct with their pawning .no one want to re pay and save the jeellery.they almost advanced 48,0000 to 54,000 . But now value decreased to 44,000.they don't have liquidity even from an auction,Boc and peoples bank have advanced billions even LB finance.rupee depreciation and 10% import tax so far make them happy but how long.said finance company increased the pawning interest rate 36% per annum. We are talking any 15% lending rate now .65% of their pawning jwelleries has to go an auction. The loss may be millions.it's a listed company. Another company has mote than 2000 ceases vehicles in their yard. They don't get any profit even can't recover the cost.also another listed finance company has given billions as micro credit in rural areas has faced a major recovery problem.they give loans 28% interest per annum (some times effective rate goes 28-44%) with out any assets.they make 3 small groups * 7 groups and approve the loan. Repayment is typically twice a week.so now what happend 4-6 micro finance companies are approving loans for same group.so they take loans and use for consumptions rather than investing a new business.no funds to repay. What a use of a legal action .it will take years to recover. So the systems are full of mess now. 60% Sri lankans jwelleries in bank or in finance companies.

Teller wrote:https://i.servimg.com/u/f82/17/82/21/04/asi14.png       , pls ref above, unfortunately I can't upload drafts through my system. I didn't predict the market my own way. All economies are performing towardsrds to crisis.US economy 1.8% slow down.SL economy didn't perform as expected in last quarter .commodities market collapsed.balance of payment crisis on the way.plantation wage hike on the way.market PE ratio is attractive but are satis with the 75% of finance companies performances.leading finance company in kegalle's struct with their pawning .no one want to re pay and save the jeellery.they almost advanced 48,0000 to 54,000 . But now value decreased to 44,000.they don't have liquidity even from an auction,Boc and peoples bank have advanced billions even LB finance.rupee depreciation and 10% import tax so far make them happy but how long.said finance company increased the pawning interest rate 36% per annum. We are talking any 15% lending rate now .65% of their pawning jwelleries has to go an auction. The loss may be millions.it's a listed company. Another company has mote than 2000 ceases vehicles in their yard. They don't get any profit even can't recover the cost.also another listed finance company has given billions as micro credit in rural areas has faced a major recovery problem.they give loans 28% interest per annum (some times effective rate goes  28-44%) with out any assets.they make 3 small groups * 7 groups and approve the loan. Repayment is typically twice a week.so now what  happend 4-6 micro finance companies are approving loans for same group.so they take loans and use for consumptions rather than investing a new business.no funds to repay. What a use of a legal action .it will take years to recover. So the systems are full of mess now. 60% Sri lankans jwelleries in bank or in finance companies.

hutaa..... lots of points...... all sided with negative side.... !!!

ammapa machan rupiyalak wath CSE eke invest karanna hoda nadda......

mechcharama notorious kiyala hithune nathath mata... in next 30days is crucial...!!!
i hope good time will come to buy kiyala but... last two days... little green lights came but yet not sure...!!!

*pls I am yet to be an expert in investing CSE! GL!

Teller wrote:https://i.servimg.com/u/f82/17/82/21/04/asi14.png       , pls ref above, unfortunately I can't upload drafts through my system. I didn't predict the market my own way. All economies are performing towardsrds to crisis.US economy 1.8% slow down.SL economy didn't perform as expected in last quarter .commodities market collapsed.balance of payment crisis on the way.plantation wage hike on the way.market PE ratio is attractive but are satis with the 75% of finance companies performances.leading finance company in kegalle's struct with their pawning .no one want to re pay and save the jeellery.they almost advanced 48,0000 to 54,000 . But now value decreased to 44,000.they don't have liquidity even from an auction,Boc and peoples bank have advanced billions even LB finance.rupee depreciation and 10% import tax so far make them happy but how long.said finance company increased the pawning interest rate 36% per annum. We are talking any 15% lending rate now .65% of their pawning jwelleries has to go an auction. The loss may be millions.it's a listed company. Another company has mote than 2000 ceases vehicles in their yard. They don't get any profit even can't recover the cost.also another listed finance company has given billions as micro credit in rural areas has faced a major recovery problem.they give loans 28% interest per annum (some times effective rate goes  28-44%) with out any assets.they make 3 small groups * 7 groups and approve the loan. Repayment is typically twice a week.so now what  happend 4-6 micro finance companies are approving loans for same group.so they take loans and use for consumptions rather than investing a new business.no funds to repay. What a use of a legal action .it will take years to recover. So the systems are full of mess now. 60% Sri lankans jwelleries in bank or in finance companies.

so simple terms... good time to buy ne.. (only thing not buy for credit).

@ Teller.

I am working closely with micro Baking sector, still our Recovery rate is very high some times it goes above 100% due to small amounts being re payed early. Also our operational team is in touch with them every day to make sure the given money is utilized in the expected business. Admin. cost is quite high.

Still the industry is very lavish and no any alarming. But yes in 3-5 years their will be a saturation in the industry of Gov. failed to take corrective actions.

Dont make people fear by creating stories.