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1My experience @ investor day- 2013 Empty My experience @ investor day- 2013 Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:37 pm

Leon


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Hi Friends,

Today I went for the investor day 2013 with one of my friends.My friend wanted to open up an account and he went for a reputed firm. One guy explained few things and after finishing documentary things he started his recommendations.His first two picks were Greg and ECL.I couldn't stop my self and I queried.Only reason was those shares are trading @ bargain prices. With my limited knowledge I told them there are many good shares other than these and told my friend not to jump into those.
My worry is if industry people recommend such shares for potential investors it is suicidal. ( I can reveal the the firm if I'm allowed)
I think we need quality ideas from genuine advisers.

2My experience @ investor day- 2013 Empty Re: My experience @ investor day- 2013 Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:55 pm

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Well its normal.. These days brokers need money and they mostly want the suckers to get into speculatives and get their hands burnt..
They dont care whether the client makes money or not, they make money when clients buy and sell, so that's enuf for them.

Now-a-days, a decent adviser is hard to find..

3My experience @ investor day- 2013 Empty Re: My experience @ investor day- 2013 Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:51 pm

dudi


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Leon,pls tell which broker firm it is.we need to know

4My experience @ investor day- 2013 Empty Re: My experience @ investor day- 2013 Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:51 pm

Chinwi

Chinwi
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
This is the problem with so called advisers.  
They do not know how to select shares for a newcomer.

The other problem is they do not get any good hints from the matured set in the same company.
The big set deal with high worth and long known customers and put young guys  to deal with newcomers.
So, a newcomer gets advice from another newcomer.

I guess you are not referring the hut where they placed sExY looking female models to attract investors ! Wink 

5My experience @ investor day- 2013 Empty Re: My experience @ investor day- 2013 Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:08 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Wow. Does this hut do any other side business that is resistant to all economic times ;-)


On a serios note on Leon post :

This is why every new comer needs to learn some basics of share valuation so they know if there investment advisor is taking you for rides.


@Chinwi wrote:

I guess you are not referring the hut where they placed sExY looking female models to attract investors ! Wink 

6My experience @ investor day- 2013 Empty Re: My experience @ investor day- 2013 Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:14 pm

KDDND

KDDND
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Leon wrote:Hi Friends,

Today I went for the investor day 2013 with one of my friends.My friend wanted to open up an account and he went for a reputed firm. One guy explained few things and after finishing documentary things he started his recommendations.His first two picks were Greg and ECL.I couldn't stop my self and I queried.Only reason was those shares are trading @ bargain prices. With my limited knowledge I told them there are many good shares other than these and told my friend not to jump into those.
My worry is if industry people recommend such shares for potential investors it is suicidal. ( I can reveal the the firm if I'm allowed)
I think we need quality ideas from genuine advisers.

@leon!

good u told this story......
though I am beginner...... this is really SURPRISE for me....
very hard to believe this recommendation unless they have......
VERY GOOD PLANNED GAME to come........
so lot of questions remained to be cleared ..... in both ways negatives/positives..... !!!
Rolling Eyes 

7My experience @ investor day- 2013 Empty Re: My experience @ investor day- 2013 Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:23 pm

Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
@slstock wrote:

This is why every new comer needs to learn some basics of share valuation  so they know if there investment advisor is taking you for rides.


Which you said is million time true.
In the past I read the following post in this forum, may be an eye opener for the new comers.
http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t16383-6-steps-to-investing-excellence

8My experience @ investor day- 2013 Empty Re: My experience @ investor day- 2013 Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:36 pm

dudi


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
looks like some advisers are m...... F.......s.take new comers for a ride

9My experience @ investor day- 2013 Empty Re: My experience @ investor day- 2013 Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:43 pm

Sasanka De Silva

Sasanka De Silva
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Once I asked my agent to buy some plantation shares (Rubber mostly) and he wanted to know why.
When I said the crude oil price was gallpoing, he was confused.
If someone does not know the relationship between crude oil and natural rubber, then he or she sould not take up advicing others on stocks.

10My experience @ investor day- 2013 Empty Re: My experience @ investor day- 2013 Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:16 am

dudi


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
is it possible to take legal action against advisers for wrongful advising? someone Pls explain

11My experience @ investor day- 2013 Empty Re: My experience @ investor day- 2013 Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:10 am

Leon


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Chinwi wrote:This is the problem with so called advisers.  
They do not know how to select shares for a newcomer.

The other problem is they do not get any good hints from the matured set in the same company.
The big set deal with high worth and long known customers and put young guys  to deal with newcomers.
So, a newcomer gets advice from another newcomer.

I guess you are not referring the hut where they placed sExY looking female models to attract investors ! Wink 


Chinwi, nail on the head.That's LOXX. I wonder what those two models were doing other than showing their figure.Be were guys they are giving advises not for share picking but for.......picking:D Very Happy Very Happy 

12My experience @ investor day- 2013 Empty Re: My experience @ investor day- 2013 Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:57 am

roshana7549


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
I visited 6 stalls, out of which the best was NDB stock brokers stall, there i found one gentlemen called Mr Taamara (Sales managers) who got a brilliant knowledge on shares i mentioned, had a very good chat......
They didn't even force me to open an account unlike other broker firms......
He promised to send me company specific research reports via email.........

13My experience @ investor day- 2013 Empty Re: My experience @ investor day- 2013 Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:17 pm

yaka

yaka
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@Leon wrote:
@Chinwi wrote:This is the problem with so called advisers.  
They do not know how to select shares for a newcomer.

The other problem is they do not get any good hints from the matured set in the same company.
The big set deal with high worth and long known customers and put young guys  to deal with newcomers.
So, a newcomer gets advice from another newcomer.

I guess you are not referring the hut where they placed sExY looking female models to attract investors ! Wink 

Chinwi, nail on the head.That's LOXX. I wonder what those two models were doing other than showing their figure.Be were guys they are giving advises not for share picking but for.......picking:D Very Happy Very Happy 
I was with my wife (unfortunately)hm...... nywy 1st time i went there.if we talk about the plus side i met some good guys who gave friendly advices (specially about unit trust i wanted to know)overall i like that program would be good for beginners but as said should not much believe on advisers.
WHAT I WORRY IS
i participated almost all the raffle draws but couldn't win.........(wish if i could win 10000 with bartleet) No 

14My experience @ investor day- 2013 Empty Re: My experience @ investor day- 2013 Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:20 pm

dudi


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Yaka man,why didn't you walk away with the models leaving your wife with the care of an advisor?now I wonder why I missed the opportunity to see those models. I wanted to come but I had to change the plans at the last moment

15My experience @ investor day- 2013 Empty Re: My experience @ investor day- 2013 Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:32 pm

Lalindra

Lalindra
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
In my experience most of the so called 'Investment Advisers' are half baked potatoes who knows next to nothing about share investments. My advice to any new investor is to learn your basics about the fundamental value of a share before you part with your hard earned money. If someone recommends ask for reasons based on the fundamentals.
Sasanka De Silva, I fully agree with your assessment.
Thank you for sharing your experience Leon, it's very important to an investor who's new to the market.

16My experience @ investor day- 2013 Empty Re: My experience @ investor day- 2013 Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:51 pm

KDDND

KDDND
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Some advisers are trying to get information or hints from the investors..... Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing 

They too in a race to know things......
senior advisers doesn't seems to say thing correctly or fully to junior advisers...

similarly....

senior consultant/managers doesn't seems to say thing correctly or fully to senior advisers...

seems like its a GAME of SECRECY...!!!

Top Advisers/consultant HAVE or DESIGN or PROGRAM the GAME well..... the juniors.....are the implementers...... we generally deals with them.....

but i know there are some cases...things work well for all too....

But if we are talented..... and work with good counters.... we too may understand the thing reasonably well ......if we do home work well......

Otherwise...if we have good and reliable contact with the BIG once..then it is SURE!!!
coz most of the time they write the SCRIPTS of the DRAMA....!!!!

as a beginner... this is how I feel.... and understand ...... based on my experiences!!!

17My experience @ investor day- 2013 Empty Re: My experience @ investor day- 2013 Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:17 pm

dudi


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Why are they called advisers then?it puzzels me now

18My experience @ investor day- 2013 Empty Re: My experience @ investor day- 2013 Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:04 pm

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
@Chinwi wrote:
The other problem is they do not get any good hints from the matured set in the same company.
The big set deal with high worth and long known customers and put young guys  to deal with newcomers.
So, a newcomer gets advice from another newcomer.
 

Ah.. Hard facts.. Blind leads the blind Wink But if they want, they can get on with their own shoes.. If we do it without these so called advisers, why they cant armed themselves with the finest and free sources such as internet, as their prime research method is a question to me for a long time?????

@Sasanka De Silva wrote:Once I asked my agent to buy some plantation shares (Rubber mostly) and he wanted to know why.
When I said the crude oil price was gallpoing, he was confused.
If someone does not know the relationship between crude oil and natural rubber, then he or she sould not take up advicing others on stocks.

Good one mate.. Some adviser are not following market trends and dont know a thing outside their territory Wink
They get wake up calls when som ppl start asking questions and buying..

19My experience @ investor day- 2013 Empty Re: My experience @ investor day- 2013 Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:15 am

Chinwi

Chinwi
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
@Leon wrote:I wonder what those two models were doing other than showing their figure.Be were guys they are giving advises not for share picking but for.......picking:D  

An IPO ?

20My experience @ investor day- 2013 Empty Re: My experience @ investor day- 2013 Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:58 am

Jana1


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Sasanka De Silva wrote:Once I asked my agent to buy some plantation shares (Rubber mostly) and he wanted to know why.
When I said the crude oil price was gallpoing, he was confused.
If someone does not know the relationship between crude oil and natural rubber, then he or she sould not take up advicing others on stocks.

I think that is pretty hard to find. Most of da guys in da office doesn't know...

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