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1Good counters for long term ? Empty Good counters for long term ? Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:16 pm

Red_Indian

Red_Indian
Stock Trader
Is LION good as a long term counter (2-5 yrs) ? In the chart it has steady growth fro 2003.
What do you think ?

2Good counters for long term ? Empty Re: Good counters for long term ? Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:05 am

traderathome

traderathome
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Red_Indian wrote:Is LION good as a long term counter (2-5 yrs) ? In the chart it has steady growth fro 2003.
What do you think ?
yes Very Happy 

3Good counters for long term ? Empty Re: Good counters for long term ? Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:07 am

traderathome

traderathome
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
HAYC.N


Is Good too.

4Good counters for long term ? Empty Re: Good counters for long term ? Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:55 am

hariesha


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
If you are investing for long term, invest in companies in younger age. They will give you better returns. If you are looking to double your money in 5 years placing in an FD is better. No headache : not much risk.

But if you are expecting a return of 400% then can companies you are talking give that return?

5Good counters for long term ? Empty Re: Good counters for long term ? Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:59 am

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
@hariesha wrote:

But if you are expecting a return of 400% then can companies you are talking give that return?
That's a thumping return.. Smile So what qualifies for the list, say 200-400% gain in short and long term?

6Good counters for long term ? Empty Re: Good counters for long term ? Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:25 am

hariesha


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
I never look at a single counter to give that return of cause there is possibility. But if you identify a counter that can give 100% return in one year, you can easily achieve 400% target.

If you identify the correct counter, even in a crashing market you can achieve that target. Look at the counters that behave in such way in the past. REXP, TJL, AEL, KAPI, TYRE I can say lot. Can remember some people laugh at me when recommended REXP.

In future I believe SHL, VONE, LOLC, LLUB can give more than 100%, there are so many possibilities. You have to study and time well. Blindly gathering blue chips will not give the return you expect.

For the people like much excitement : PCH, PCP, PCHH, CIFL, TWOD (watch and play of cause)?



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7Good counters for long term ? Empty Re: Good counters for long term ? Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:19 am

viper123

viper123
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@hariesha wrote: If you are looking to double your money in 5 years placing in an FD is better. No headache : not much risk.

Who is giving 20% per year ? Sad Sad Sad 

8Good counters for long term ? Empty Re: Good counters for long term ? Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:28 am

hariesha


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
To double the in five years 15% is enough.

9Good counters for long term ? Empty Re: Good counters for long term ? Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:16 pm

Hawk Eye

Hawk Eye
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
I am suggesting something that can give minimun 40% return in future.

LAUGFS

LPG GAS GENERAL FACTORS

• A total of 3 billion people in the world are using LP Gas
• LP Gas is a clean energy solution, which emits 50% less CO2 emissions than coal and 20% less than heating oil
• LP Gas is a portable, clean and efficient energy source which is readily available to consumers around the world
• LP Gas is a co-product of crude oil production and natural gas
• it’s a versatile energy source which can be used in more than 1000 different applications
• it is mostly used in transportation, industry, farming, domestic heating and cooking and also for recreational purposes


Energy Sector

Laugfs Gas PLC  : liquefied Petroleum Gas & other related product
Growth Prospect LPG market

• 55% of the total energy is produced by burning biomass.. More than 70% of industries use biomass as their primary source of fuel and the tea industry consumes about 45% from the total.
• Commercial growing of trees and the illegal felling of state forests do not fulfill the demand and as a result biomass is becoming scarce. In order to be globally competitive, industries require convenient, cleaner and more cost effective energy sources.
• Government macroeconomic policies now underway to move forward the economy towards attaining beyond USD 4,000 Per Capita Income by the year 2016 shall make the disposable income of the average consumer more affordable to switch to the usage of LP Gas as an energy source.
• .LPG Gas is Substantially under‐penetrated local LPG market (currently Sri Lankan market penetration level is only 30% compared to India’s58%) allows LGL to improve its market share with least competition

Performance
• Revenue in this segment increased from Rs.8.30bn in FY 2012 to Rs.9.7 Bn in FY2013. 16% growth
• Net Profit from Rs.8.30bn in FY 2012 to Rs.9.7 Bn in FY2013. 16% growth 636Mn to 1216Mn. 91% growth



Laugfs Power Ltd : Hydro Power

Sri Lanka’s total potential is estimated to be around 500 MW. The company at the moment is engaged with the development of mini-hydro project at “Ranmudu Oya” Balangoda. It consists of two phases to develop 1.5 MW.

Project will add revenue for the  FY14/15, and should generate around 15Mn revenue.
PAP: Rs.175mn in Revenue from 18.2 MW plants.


Service Sector

Laugfs Eco Sri Pvt Ltd
a vehicle emission testing company, soon completing five years of successful operations. Over the years, LAUGFS Eco Sri has expanded its operations with over 90 test centers and over 5,500 tests per day.

Vehicle emission test and certification is mandatory to obtain Revenue License

Performance
• Revenue increased form Rs.711mn in FY12 to Rs.858mn in FY13 . 20% Growth
• Profits increased from Rs.302mn to Rs.407 mn.34% growth


Leisure & Hospitality Sector – (Investment 1,589 Mn).

This sector should generate around 600mn – 1000 mn revenue in future

• Ananthaya Resort in Chilaw Will be in operation from end of 2013 with approximately 90 rooms in 18 acre freehold land as a 4 star luxury hotel.

• The second hotel under construction is at Pasikuddah with 100 rooms in 15 acre leasehold land. The hotel is planned to be opened by 2014 winter as a 4 star hotel and will unleash the exciting eastern beaches and heritage sites.
• The proposed Waskaduwa hotel in 15 acre freehold land block is next in line and is expected to be completed by 2014 winter season


Property Sector– (Investment 567 Mn)

Should generate around 60Mn -100Mn

LAUGFS Property Developers are currently constructing a commercial building complex in Colombo, with several other projects in the pipeline as well.

10 Storey Commercial building nears completion and will be commercially operating from 2013 end.


LAUGFS Mineral sand project
Laugfs Holdings Limited entered into a strategic agreement with Sri Lanka Institute of Nanotechnology (SLINTEC) to process natural mineral sands for value addition. This will start as a pilot project first  http://slintec.lk/nano-news/news/laugfs-slintec-tie-up-for-natural-mineral-sand-processing/


Expected the NP to improve by 10% as the current cost includes operating cost from sectors not generating any income.

Exchange rate and tax plays a major role in the bottom line both ways.

LGL has announced a Rs.1.5 dividend per share for both voting and nonvoting shares for the last 02 years. Good DPO ratio DY for an investment like this.

Just forecast the revenue and NP that can add in future WITH THE NEW PROJECTS IN PIPELINE
I am expecting 40% minmum

10Good counters for long term ? Empty Re: Good counters for long term ? Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:47 pm

hariesha


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Thanks, Really useful. I am also targeting LGL at the moment. Do have high expectations that it will outperform the market in the 1-6 months.

But most of the above subs will not consolidate for LGL, but to the holding company which will be listed in the future.



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11Good counters for long term ? Empty Re: Good counters for long term ? Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:52 pm

Bond


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
LGL like IOC is a put option on commodity prices ... very limited upside gain

Further some reinvestment is needed

The problem with Litro and this is the replacement life for gas canisters

12Good counters for long term ? Empty Re: Good counters for long term ? Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:05 pm

notme

notme
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
PLC for me, with their profit growth. look at the CAL recommendation also, in the research section.

13Good counters for long term ? Empty Re: Good counters for long term ? Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:31 pm

Red_Indian

Red_Indian
Stock Trader
Thanks for you replies, Please tell me about Lcey,Lfin about their current prices. Is it good to enter.?

14Good counters for long term ? Empty Re: Good counters for long term ? Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:31 pm

besthope


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Good counters for long term ? 10139-62"When the Earth is sick, the animals will begin to disappear, when that happens, The Warriors of the Rainbow will come to save them."


Ammata siri, mey sata kawda


Good counters for long term ? In-sea10





Peace pipe ekak smoke karamudeh ? 

15Good counters for long term ? Empty Re: Good counters for long term ? Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:35 pm

Red_Indian

Red_Indian
Stock Trader
@besthope wrote:Good counters for long term ? 10139-62"When the Earth is sick, the animals will begin to disappear, when that happens, The Warriors of the Rainbow will come to save them."


Ammata siri, mey sata kawda


Good counters for long term ? In-sea10


Peace pipe ekak smoke karamudeh ? 
Don't insult other people. Behave good. There can be some mistake that your parents made when you were born, but just don't highlight them and get them the blame. If you are not here to invest go and watch your own business.

I think You can be one of the looser who scarified all your money to the market and put your finger on your ass hole until the market up. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing 

16Good counters for long term ? Empty Re: Good counters for long term ? Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:04 am

traderathome

traderathome
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Red_Indian wrote:Thanks for you replies, Please tell me about Lcey,Lfin about their current prices. Is it good to enter.?
LFIN you may buy @103.5-105 Very Happy 

17Good counters for long term ? Empty Re: Good counters for long term ? Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:19 am

besthope


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@Red_Indian wrote:
@besthope wrote:Good counters for long term ? 10139-62"When the Earth is sick, the animals will begin to disappear, when that happens, The Warriors of the Rainbow will come to save them."


Ammata siri, mey sata kawda


Good counters for long term ? In-sea10


Peace pipe ekak smoke karamudeh ? 
Don't insult other people. Behave good. There can be some mistake that your parents made when you were born, but just don't highlight them and get them the blame. If you  are not here to invest go and watch your own business.

I think You can be one of the looser who scarified all your money to the market and  put your finger on your ass hole until the market up. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing 


Good counters for long term ? N50bd7096ed5c5

hallo hallo sqauw chicken little, i am big chief Sitting Bull here. i very angry how you talking. i come to your wigwam and cut off your tepee with my tomahawk if you talking too much. i bring also my paleface friends. i no interested in shares. i only collect scalps.

18Good counters for long term ? Empty Re: Good counters for long term ? Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:31 am

dhanurrox


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@traderathome wrote:
@Red_Indian wrote:Thanks for you replies, Please tell me about Lcey,Lfin about their current prices. Is it good to enter.?
LFIN you may buy @103.5-105 Very Happy 
LCEY below 130 will be great if you can.

19Good counters for long term ? Empty Re: Good counters for long term ? Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:35 am

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
@Red_Indian wrote:

Don't insult other people. Behave good. There can be some mistake that your parents made when you were born, but just don't highlight them and get them the blame. If you  are not here to invest go and watch your own business.

I think You can be one of the looser who scarified all your money to the market and  put your finger on your until the market up. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing 

This kind of language is forbidden in this forum.. I request you to respect forum rules.

Take a joke as a joke not as an insult...

20Good counters for long term ? Empty Re: Good counters for long term ? Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:33 am

Red_Indian

Red_Indian
Stock Trader
@smallville wrote:
This kind of language is forbidden in this forum.. I request you to respect forum rules.

Take a joke as a joke not as an insult...
I think you know him or there should be a connection between you and him Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy 

Anyway its your forum and its your rules. I quit !!!. At least its good to have this kind of joker who does nothing. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes 

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