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Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning

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1Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning   Empty Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:03 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Member/public:

I thought I should warn as a public service.

There is revival in the sector/market after the Bank/Fin merger requests by Central Bank.

For what it is worth make Hay when the sun is shining.  
As a plus point, it has helped/will help  some undervalued shares to raise it head from their multi year gloom.

Remember when a fundamental goes up there is justified reason for it to hold value as there is an intrinsic value attached.

BUT at the same time ,  some weeds will try to raise its head  along side  the good fortune of these cash crop plants.
It is called a free ride.

Now if you chase after speculative weeds that unrealistically goes up in price and  if you buy/hold  them at the wrong time, you will be held high and dry.

Ex   :   GSF  which is trading at about 30  times its  NAV .  A share that is worth about Rs 30 max is still trading at Rs 450!!!
If someone want to buy/merge with GSF, wonder whether they are ready to pay Rs 450 for Rs 15 NAV company!
But the top 3 holders of the company are interesting so don;t know what will happen.

I warned about another Fin share in the forum if you search ( not to mention the multiple warning on CIFL when at Rs 6-9).

There are/will be  more . So be educated and careful.

2Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning   Empty Re: Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:59 pm

Aubrey Perera


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
SL stock I was thinking the same no confirmation yet on who's buying who or selling out but fin shares are booming . Can you point some of the good ones out as mentioned by you ? as mentioned earlier I want to get in to some shares on Monday weighing my options. I will do my own research as well. Give me a few to have a look .

3Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning   Empty Re: Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:25 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Did you not follow the/my other thread on share discussions.


@Aubrey Perera wrote:SL stock I was thinking the same no confirmation yet on who's buying who or selling out but fin shares are booming . Can you point some of the good ones out as mentioned by you ? as mentioned earlier I want to get in to some shares on Monday weighing my options. I will do my own research as well. Give me a few to have a look .

4Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning   Empty Re: Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:33 pm

Aubrey Perera


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Not all buddy !!! Can you post them here ???

5Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning   Empty Re: Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:36 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

This is a seprate thread for the opporsite purpose.

You can go refer to my other thread where share discussions/hint are given me/other members.


@Aubrey Perera wrote:Not all buddy !!! Can you post them here ???

6Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning   Empty Re: Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:37 pm

Lawwa


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Yeah I agree with you, If you compare share prices of Finance sector companies from DEC to NOW almost all of them appreciated around 30%-40%, surprisingly some of them have more than 100% gains. Anyway personally I believe that this is a God given chance for us to get rid off from Finance companies to good Fundamental counters, I believe everyone should get their hand off from these counters. "Always do what other people doesn't do at trading"!! Happy Trading

7Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning   Empty Re: Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:43 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
welcome to the forum.

But we should also note there are strong/solid ones which has not moves much and trading at low PEs /NAVs that can be long term investments.




@Lawwa wrote:Yeah I agree with you, If you compare share prices of Finance sector companies from DEC to NOW almost all of them appreciated around 30%-40%, surprisingly some of them have more than 100% gains. Anyway personally I believe that this is a God given chance for us to get rid off from Finance companies to good Fundamental counters, I believe everyone should get their hand off from these counters. "Always do what other people doesn't do at trading"!! Happy Trading

8Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning   Empty Re: Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:15 pm

Aubrey Perera


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Sorry mate can't seem to find them. What are these strong solid ones you say ? PM me if you don't want to name them on this thread.

Or tell me how do I find the discussions as you have mentioned above ? in the search section I can't seem to locate ??

9Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning   Empty Re: Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:41 pm

KDDND

KDDND
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Thx SLSTOCK!
I appreciate your words and warning......!!!
I too agree about the facts you mentioned....  cheers 

10Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning   Empty Re: Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:04 pm

seek


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Aubrey, VFIN didn't move. Showed some intrest during last hour. Actually I bought after selling COCR

11Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning   Empty Re: Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:18 pm

mark

mark
Expert
Expert
tnx admin Smile

im sure there will be millionars tnx to cbsl.

12Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning   Empty Re: Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:46 pm

Aubrey Perera


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Sl stock found what I was looking good stuff stocky boy keep it up Wink....Seek good thing I guess. Vfin Lifin vone rather quiet when you compare others in the sector.

13Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning   Empty Re: Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:54 pm

dhanurrox


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Aubrey Perera wrote:Sl stock found what I was looking good stuff stocky boy keep it up Wink....Seek good thing I guess. Vfin Lifin vone rather quiet when you compare others in the sector.
Vone run very close.

14Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning   Empty Re: Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:10 pm

wandi


Stock Trader
hi ,this is my first post in this forum. Hope these thoughts of other members will be informative for my decision making.

i entered to the mkt yesterday.my first buyin was sfin at 13.30 as my broker recommended.he was so confident that it will pass 20 soon. so bought 25000.
love you everyone..

15Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning   Empty Re: Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:03 pm

Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
@wandi wrote:hi ,this is my first post in this forum. Hope these thoughts of other members will be informative for my decision making.

i entered to the mkt yesterday.my first buyin was sfin at 13.30 as my broker recommended.he was so confident that it will pass 20 soon. so bought 25000.
love you everyone..
Wecome wandi, your expectation on CSE want die due to brokers advice.

16Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning   Empty Re: Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:29 pm

KDDND

KDDND
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@wandi wrote:hi ,this is my first post in this forum. Hope these thoughts of other members will be informative for my decision making.

i entered to the mkt yesterday.my first buyin was sfin at 13.30 as my broker recommended.he was so confident that it will pass 20 soon. so bought 25000.
love you everyone..

Welcomem wandi!
I think ur entry is OK but close to GOOD....
But b very careful..... not in loving to broker..... but in listening to their advice.....
its is their job.... this is your part time work....
Always think twice when u invest your money.....
lucky u entered to market when it is in up trend.....
but it may not stay in up trend so long.....
so listen to many other people....
there some good and nice and intelligent people in this forum... but not all OK
hee hee I am also not in that group....  Wink 
Have a good and pleasant journey in CSE!  I love you  Embarassed 

17Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning   Empty Re: Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:19 am

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Btw, here is hidden fact I forgot to mention about GSF.

IF GSF adjusts in price massively, ASI is going to take a hit.
So there is Political balance need to figure.

Will there be "relaxations" to accommodate GSF I don;t know.

How GSF is handled will be interesting to watch in this merger hype.

All i know is this,
somehow 1.2 Bil asset company is trading in the market for over 10 Billion!
While I see a 29 billion asset company is trading at 2.7 Billion!!!

Wonder of CSE.

Still fundamental are not showing that much at CSE ( though very much better than 2011)


.

18Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning   Empty Re: Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:08 am

K.Haputantri

K.Haputantri
Co-Admin
@slstock wrote:Btw, here is hidden fact I forgot to mention about GSF.

IF GSF adjusts in price massively,  ASI is going to take a hit.
So there  is   Political balance  need to figure.

Will there be "relaxations" to accommodate GSF I don;t know.  

How GSF is handled will be  interesting to watch  in this merger hype.

All i know is this,
somehow 1.2 Bil asset company is trading in the market for over 10 Billion!
While I see a 29 billion asset company is trading at 2.7 Billion!!!

Wonder of CSE.

Still fundamental are not showing that much at CSE ( though very much better than 2011)


.

Its strange. To keep GSF at current level some one must pour in money or undertake related party transactions again costing money for transaction costs etc? ?Where this money come from.

19Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning   Empty Re: Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:19 am

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Looking at Assets/ Capital ( and if this CB regulation is serious with no loop holes for companies like GSF) they have no option but to merge or sell out. s

Related party share transfer will not do right?



@K.Haputantri wrote:
@slstock wrote:Btw, here is hidden fact I forgot to mention about GSF.

IF GSF adjusts in price massively,  ASI is going to take a hit.
So there  is   Political balance  need to figure.

Will there be "relaxations" to accommodate GSF I don;t know.  

How GSF is handled will be  interesting to watch  in this merger hype.

All i know is this,
somehow 1.2 Bil asset company is trading in the market for over 10 Billion!
While I see a 29 billion asset company is trading at 2.7 Billion!!!

Wonder of CSE.

Still fundamental are not showing that much at CSE ( though very much better than 2011)


.

Its strange. To keep GSF at current level some one must pour in money or undertake related party transactions again costing money for transaction costs etc? ?Where this money come from.

20Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning   Empty Re: Bank/Fin Merger hype Warning Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:16 pm

malanp


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@K.Haputantri wrote:
@slstock wrote:Btw, here is hidden fact I forgot to mention about GSF.

IF GSF adjusts in price massively,  ASI is going to take a hit.
So there  is   Political balance  need to figure.

Will there be "relaxations" to accommodate GSF I don;t know.  

How GSF is handled will be  interesting to watch  in this merger hype.

All i know is this,
somehow 1.2 Bil asset company is trading in the market for over 10 Billion!
While I see a 29 billion asset company is trading at 2.7 Billion!!!

Wonder of CSE.

Still fundamental are not showing that much at CSE ( though very much better than 2011)


.

Its strange. To keep GSF at current level some one must pour in money or undertake related party transactions again costing money for transaction costs etc? ?Where this money come from.

GSF monthly share trading is just half million ruppees,

for 6m annual share trading brokerage is just above Rs.60,000.

very low cost to maintain at 10b market capitalization.

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