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CSF...Bounce...!

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1CSF...Bounce...! Empty CSF...Bounce...! Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:51 am

RIO

RIO
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
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Wow ...CSF is bouncing back to 32 levels.............La La La

Rolling Eyes Wink Smile Laughing Razz bounce cheers



Last edited by mark on Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:53 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : delete accordingly)

2CSF...Bounce...! Empty Re: CSF...Bounce...! Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:04 am

RIO

RIO
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

RIO wrote:Wow ...CSF is bouncing back to 32 levels.............La La La

Rolling Eyes Wink Smile Laughing Razz bounce cheers

@ Mark the Moderator...!
Why did you remove some parts of my post...? Read it back...it says clearly "I think" so its not I'm saying there is a rally but I think the interval is over, then again 3 per day ...? that's the way it moved up daily & I have mentioned it as the way it moved in the past ...how come it be a violation..?

Buddy just because of you are been a moderator or in the mean of you don't like this STOCK don't delete them without clear reasons..we see here much more speculative & clearly misguiding info than what I have mentioned as "I THINK"

3CSF...Bounce...! Empty Re: CSF...Bounce...! Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:56 pm

mark

mark
Expert
Expert

RIO wrote:
RIO wrote:Wow ...CSF is bouncing back to 32 levels.............La La La

Rolling Eyes Wink Smile Laughing Razz bounce cheers

@ Mark the Moderator...!
Why did you remove some parts of my post...? Read it back...it says clearly "I think" so its not I'm saying there is a rally but I think the interval is over, then again 3 per day ...? that's the way it moved up daily & I have mentioned it as the way it moved in the past ...how come it be a violation..?

Buddy just because of you are been a moderator or in the mean of you don't like this STOCK don't delete them without clear reasons..we see here much more speculative & clearly misguiding info than what I have mentioned as "I THINK"

reason for edit-you stated that CSF will move up by 3Rs per day,further by your post you implied a bias position about CSF,
as a moderator i have the rights to edit,delete or take necessary steps,also i can edit your post without including my name in it.
btw sorry mate if any inconvenience caused,no offence at all.
keep posting Smile
rep to you,start with fresh mood Very Happy

4CSF...Bounce...! Empty Re: CSF...Bounce...! Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:02 pm

stumpy

stumpy
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Rep from me as well!

Both of you hav to forget it!

CSF is on the move!

5CSF...Bounce...! Empty Re: CSF...Bounce...! Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:07 pm

JennyFunny


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

manipulations i think

6CSF...Bounce...! Empty Re: CSF...Bounce...! Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:17 pm

mark

mark
Expert
Expert

SanjivFund wrote:manipulations i think

strategic manipulation,i think Wink

7CSF...Bounce...! Empty Re: CSF...Bounce...! Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:04 pm

MarketResearch

MarketResearch
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

We saw that later part of the last year the market was functioned very well. The the "Pundits" were talking about manipulation ,fundamental strong stocks.(Big talks).Then the SEC pundits applied their tests on the money of the investors.They implemented price bands, trading bands for some stocks.They tested all their thoughts with innocent investors funds.

Then market was collapsed.Do NOT be too smart.(Because everything in the world is not too smart.(Hema dekama hil tiyenawa.)

If the market was functioned smoothly without any harassment we all had got benefits.

Until the market just convert to green please stop your pora comments about manipulation.

Happy Happy Trading

8CSF...Bounce...! Empty Re: CSF...Bounce...! Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:13 pm

StocksWatch


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

@ MR - Where did that come from?

9CSF...Bounce...! Empty Re: CSF...Bounce...! Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:20 pm

MarketResearch

MarketResearch
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

StocksWatch wrote:@ MR - Where did that come from?

Dear StockWatch,

After long time.Hahahahah.
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

10CSF...Bounce...! Empty Re: CSF...Bounce...! Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:38 pm

kam2011


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

You are 100% correct MarketReserch, Here there are many members who suspect everything as manupulation or insider trading and donot give any valid reasons for that., Now this has become a passion for some guys. These members when somebody else say something without giving much details blaim him saying that he should give clear reasons for his statement and otherwise poor small investors would get their fingers burnt . But same members when notice a sharp incease of price of a stock, without giving any acceptable reason or details of person/group who are involved just directly or indirectly say that it is amanupulation. This will close the door for some small investors to make use of the oppatunities created by the market forces to earn some profit.

11CSF...Bounce...! Empty Re: CSF...Bounce...! Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:51 pm

Leo_pold

Leo_pold
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

kam2011 wrote:You are 100% correct MarketReserch, Here there are many members who suspect everything as manupulation or insider trading and donot give any valid reasons for that., Now this has become a passion for some guys. These members when somebody else say something without giving much details blaim him saying that he should give clear reasons for his statement and otherwise poor small investors would get their fingers burnt . But same members when notice a sharp incease of price of a stock, without giving any acceptable reason or details of person/group who are involved just directly or indirectly say that it is amanupulation. This will close the door for some small investors to make use of the oppatunities created by the market forces to earn some profit.

I may add to this. When I joined the forum everybody was saying that CSF is manipulated and is about to come down. I believed the forum and sold my shares, just when the price started going down a bit around 24. And the same people said RICH is a fundamental stock and really undervalued. I again believed them and bought RICH.

What happened? CSF made it to 32 while RICH went from 13's to 12.70. CSF may be a poor company and RICH may be really rich, but for the sake of a trade, I lost my game!!

12CSF...Bounce...! Empty Re: CSF...Bounce...! Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:21 pm

rijayasooriya

rijayasooriya
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Leo_pold wrote:
kam2011 wrote:You are 100% correct MarketReserch, Here there are many members who suspect everything as manupulation or insider trading and donot give any valid reasons for that., Now this has become a passion for some guys. These members when somebody else say something without giving much details blaim him saying that he should give clear reasons for his statement and otherwise poor small investors would get their fingers burnt . But same members when notice a sharp incease of price of a stock, without giving any acceptable reason or details of person/group who are involved just directly or indirectly say that it is amanupulation. This will close the door for some small investors to make use of the oppatunities created by the market forces to earn some profit.

I may add to this. When I joined the forum everybody was saying that CSF is manipulated and is about to come down. I believed the forum and sold my shares, just when the price started going down a bit around 24. And the same people said RICH is a fundamental stock and really undervalued. I again believed them and bought RICH.

What happened? CSF made it to 32 while RICH went from 13's to 12.70. CSF may be a poor company and RICH may be really rich, but for the sake of a trade, I lost my game!!
We are not fortune tellers....No one can tell what will happen next....but anyone can guess...so that use ur own brain and take the decision....

13CSF...Bounce...! Empty Re: CSF...Bounce...! Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:22 pm

manula


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

[/quote]

I may add to this. When I joined the forum everybody was saying that CSF is manipulated and is about to come down. I believed the forum and sold my shares, just when the price started going down a bit around 24. And the same people said RICH is a fundamental stock and really undervalued. I again believed them and bought RICH.

What happened? CSF made it to 32 while RICH went from 13's to 12.70. CSF may be a poor company and RICH may be really rich, but for the sake of a trade, I lost my game!![/quote]


In the forum all were saying fine. correct RICH was fundamental stock though it went down and it has very high potential to grow and same way nothing to worry if you keep for long term. But when considering about CSF though price went high on these days but there is no value for the share. It is like a papadam .. There are many shares in the market like that. Some time you can gain ..some time you will be loose. It is one way luck.

14CSF...Bounce...! Empty Re: CSF...Bounce...! Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:30 pm

kam2011


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Yes yes. You are right. Read relavant posts,articles.websites, newspaers and study financial reports, charts etc. Not only that find out reactions of the possible interested groups and also industry prospect, govt policy direction etc and take decisions. then as a whole you will never loose.

15CSF...Bounce...! Empty Re: CSF...Bounce...! Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:41 pm

rijayasooriya

rijayasooriya
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

kam2011 wrote:Yes yes. You are right. Read relavant posts,articles.websites, newspaers and study financial reports, charts etc. Not only that find out reactions of the possible interested groups and also industry prospect, govt policy direction etc and take decisions. then as a whole you will never loose.
Use ur common sense also

16CSF...Bounce...! Empty Re: CSF...Bounce...! Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:26 am

Meta Trader

Meta Trader
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

kam2011 wrote:You are 100% correct MarketReserch, Here there are many members who suspect everything as manupulation or insider trading and donot give any valid reasons for that., Now this has become a passion for some guys. These members when somebody else say something without giving much details blaim him saying that he should give clear reasons for his statement and otherwise poor small investors would get their fingers burnt . But same members when notice a sharp incease of price of a stock, without giving any acceptable reason or details of person/group who are involved just directly or indirectly say that it is amanupulation. This will close the door for some small investors to make use of the oppatunities created by the market forces to earn some profit.

Here is your answer from a very reliable source.

Business Times

Most investors in Sri Lanka trade on inside information
Sri Lankan-born fund manager Raj Rajaratnam convicted
By Duruthu Edirimuni Chandrasekera

Many of the investors in the Sri Lankan stockmarket trade in shares based on inside information which is a violation of the law but regulators are scared to take these offenders to task, according to some stockbrokers. They were reacting to the stunning announcement this week where Sri Lankan-born billionaire fund manager, Raj Rajaratnam, was found guilty by a US court on insider trading and faces a prison term of upto 15 years. His lawyers have said they would appeal the verdict.

“Directors deal in shares of their own listed firms. This is a crime, because at the end of the day they are playing with the poor retailers’ money. The CSE is being driven by a handful of such players. Many offenders are not prosecuted and jailed. The Securities & Exchange Commission (SEC) law needs more teeth,” a stockbroker noted. He said that if the regulator has more teeth, the offenders can be jailed.

Mr Rajaratnam, who built his weath in the US through his Galleon Fund, was first drawn to the Colombo stockmarket in 2002 where he invested in John Keells Holdings stock in his personal capacity. Subsequently he bought shares in many listed firms through the Galleon Fund. He exited in late 2009 to early 2010, selling out all his investments here after US authorities filed charges against insider trading.
Channa de Silva, Managing Director and CEO of LR Global Lanka Asset Management Co and a former Director-General of the SEC, suggested the need for an institutional framework to allow whistle-blowing to deter ‘white’ crimes. “The law needs to be strong and be a deterrent to this kind of activity,” he said adding that Mr Rajaratnam’s conviction is a lesson for regulatory and exchange authorities, and the investor.

This, he said, also brings to focus governance and transparency and whether enough is being done in these areas. J.C. Weliamuna, former Transparency International Sri Lanka Executive Director, said in most cases there is a pattern in insider trading where such people indulge in this activity in all markets and in this case, Sri Lanka.

He said the US has been plagued by insider trading and in recent times there has been political determination to crack down on this kind of activity. “In the US, the regulator means business while in Sri Lanka all officials or appointees to regulatory bodies are directly or indirectly related to business. In such a situation they don’t want to stop insider trading as they are dealing with friends, colleagues and politicians,” he said, adding that the US Justice Department would be having a lot of information on the convicted Sri Lankan’s dealings in Colombo and the local authorities should act on it.

A stock analyst pointed out that if the regulator implements the law and ‘sends at least one offender to jail’, it’ll send a positive signal to foreign investors while keeping other potential offenders at bay. “What happened in Raj’s case is a lesson because it showed that irrespective of how rich, powerful or ‘connected’ the particular offender is, he was convicted and that nobody is above the law,” he said. He added that the SEC needs to be ‘empowered’ to go into stringent action. “Compounding is a waste of time. They’ll be scared if they are sent to jail.”

The SEC Act provides for offenders to be charged in courts and either fined or jailed on conviction. However no one has been jailed with the SEC compounding the offence where the accused pays a fine and is not ‘declared guilty’. The SEC has explained in the past that this was to avoid a protracted legal process and hoped that a hefty fine would be a strong deterrent to such activity.

The SEC plans to bring in civil sanctions (as opposed to the criminal sanctions in force now) to ensure ‘restitution’ of investors. “When offenders are identified there will be certain provisions to charge thrice the profit or the loss by the act of market manipulation from the offenders and pay one third of it to the investors who made a loss through this. This is called ‘disgorgement’,” an SEC source explained.
He said that in some countries, those who breach the (SEC) regulations are typically required to pay both civil money penalties and disgorgement. Civil money penalties are punitive, while disgorgement is about paying back profits made from those deals that violated the SEC's regulations.

The SEC says this is a better deterrent than the criminal sanctions which are now practiced. “This is also practiced in Malaysia and the burden of proof is lesser than in criminal sanctions. The proof is on the balance of probability,” the source added.

http://sundaytimes.lk/110515/BusinessTimes/bt01.html

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t3704-sri-lanka-insider-dealing-crackdown-urged-after-rajaratnam-conviction?highlight=lanka

17CSF...Bounce...! Empty Re: CSF...Bounce...! Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:01 pm

Meta Trader

Meta Trader
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Leo_pold wrote:
kam2011 wrote:You are 100% correct MarketReserch, Here there are many members who suspect everything as manupulation or insider trading and donot give any valid reasons for that., Now this has become a passion for some guys. These members when somebody else say something without giving much details blaim him saying that he should give clear reasons for his statement and otherwise poor small investors would get their fingers burnt . But same members when notice a sharp incease of price of a stock, without giving any acceptable reason or details of person/group who are involved just directly or indirectly say that it is amanupulation. This will close the door for some small investors to make use of the oppatunities created by the market forces to earn some profit.

I may add to this. When I joined the forum everybody was saying that CSF is manipulated and is about to come down. I believed the forum and sold my shares, just when the price started going down a bit around 24. And the same people said RICH is a fundamental stock and really undervalued. I again believed them and bought RICH.

What happened? CSF made it to 32 while RICH went from 13's to 12.70. CSF may be a poor company and RICH may be really rich, but for the sake of a trade, I lost my game!!
The first question I'd like to ask from you is this.

" Have you done your home work before buying or selling that particular stock ? "

if the answer is "yes" you won't even bother to blame or point the finger to anybody about it in here. Because it is your own final decision .

18CSF...Bounce...! Empty “Mafia” Manipulating Bourse Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:08 pm

Meta Trader

Meta Trader
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

This is what MR. W.K.H. Wegapitiya, chairman LAUGFS Holdings plc, an LPG gas distributor said about share manipulation.

W.K.H. Wegapitiya, chairman LAUGFS Holdings plc, an LPG gas distributor, said that there are some “shell” companies (ie dormant companies) whose shares are taken-up by those investors for no rhyme nor reason and “dumped” at a profit, without creating value to those companies.
He classified such investors as high networth individuals (HNWIs) who are involved in this scam, ie people who have in their holding millions of rupees worth of shares.

Wegapitiya said that there is a ring of around 10-15 such HNWIs who are involved in such trades.
On the other hand, one sees the shares of companies which make good profits and which create value to its stakeholders fall, he said.
Wegapitiya said that the modus operandi of this ring is such that when a person wants to up the value of the stock he holds, say by 20%, they get into the game by buying that stock, thereby creating demand for it, which pushes its price up and then dump it for a profit

Read more : http://www.thesundayleader.lk/?p=40116

19CSF...Bounce...! Empty Re: CSF...Bounce...! Sun Jun 05, 2011 3:43 pm

mark

mark
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Expert

well commented meta.. Very Happy

20CSF...Bounce...! Empty Re: CSF...Bounce...! Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:15 pm

Leo_pold

Leo_pold
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Meta Trader wrote:
Leo_pold wrote:
kam2011 wrote:You are 100% correct MarketReserch, Here there are many members who suspect everything as manupulation or insider trading and donot give any valid reasons for that., Now this has become a passion for some guys. These members when somebody else say something without giving much details blaim him saying that he should give clear reasons for his statement and otherwise poor small investors would get their fingers burnt . But same members when notice a sharp incease of price of a stock, without giving any acceptable reason or details of person/group who are involved just directly or indirectly say that it is amanupulation. This will close the door for some small investors to make use of the oppatunities created by the market forces to earn some profit.

I may add to this. When I joined the forum everybody was saying that CSF is manipulated and is about to come down. I believed the forum and sold my shares, just when the price started going down a bit around 24. And the same people said RICH is a fundamental stock and really undervalued. I again believed them and bought RICH.

What happened? CSF made it to 32 while RICH went from 13's to 12.70. CSF may be a poor company and RICH may be really rich, but for the sake of a trade, I lost my game!!
The first question I'd like to ask from you is this.

" Have you done your home work before buying or selling that particular stock ? "

if the answer is "yes" you won't even bother to blame or point the finger to anybody about it in here. Because it is your own final decision .


I admit that I did no homework on this. CSF was my first ever share to buy and sell. So I think you guys can forgive me on this!! I now know what I did wrong as I learnt a lot from this forum and other sources during the past month. I may be genius compared to whom I was a month ago, but I know I still got tons to learn!!!

21CSF...Bounce...! Empty Re: CSF...Bounce...! Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:59 pm

Meta Trader

Meta Trader
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Leo_pold wrote:

I admit that I did no homework on this. CSF was my first ever share to buy and sell. So I think you guys can forgive me on this!! I now know what I did wrong as I learnt a lot from this forum and other sources during the past month. I may be genius compared to whom I was a month ago, but I know I still got tons to learn!!!
Leo_pold
every successful person starts with a failure . i wish you all the best .

22CSF...Bounce...! Empty Re: CSF...Bounce...! Sun Jun 05, 2011 7:07 pm

Leo_pold

Leo_pold
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Thanks a lot..

23CSF...Bounce...! Empty Re: CSF...Bounce...! Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:38 pm

sanjaya351


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

ON monday it will touch xx ..just wait and see ...forurtune comes with risks ...



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