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CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000)

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726BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:45 pm

stockback


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

I need to buy another 70K or 80K. today I didnt bought any share.

bcz if i show the demand i cannot collect bellow 80. I am waiting bit. bellow 80 GRAN has demand

05 th of MAY GRAN report will out. two weeks time.

will see....

727BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:48 pm

stockback


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

I am Sorry Karuna. I am not Believe any GOD in this world. even Human GOD also

I am Roman Catholic. but i am not Believe......

728BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:55 pm

hiransilva23


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Stockback if u really need to buy sm big quantity u shouldn't post in this.its like a paper advertisement.lot f people c dt n they will target ur buy.

Bt I think u already bought.nw u tring to keep the price above 80 level.am i correct???

729BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:03 pm

karuna


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

stockback wrote:I am Sorry Karuna. I am not Believe any GOD in this world. even Human GOD also

I am Roman Catholic. but i am not Believe......


someone like me he never trying to do it. i am saying from my innocent knowledge . 


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වනය අවුලා තබන 
මිහිර දෙන වැස්ස වෙමු 
දැවෙන කැලයට වසින. 

the invisible shares mover . the god karuna

730BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:13 pm

worthiness


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Promotion (if any) do not push any share as before. Participants nowadays are on alert after losing a lot of money. Many predictions given had not been become true except few. Learning curve would be useful for own investment activities.

731BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:15 pm

worthiness


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Promotion (if any) do not push any share as before. Participants nowadays are on alert after losing a lot of money. Many predictions given had not been become true except few. Learning curve would be useful for own investment activities.

732BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:43 pm

stockback


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

hiransilva23 wrote:Stockback if u really  need to buy sm big quantity u shouldn't post in this.its like a paper advertisement.lot f people c dt n they will target ur buy.

Bt I think u already bought.nw u tring to keep the price above 80 level.am i correct???


already I have some. 

I need collect more. but if its fall bellow 80 I will buy. general plan for Averaging. I try to give support level  around 80 before financial report.

but after financial report i no need to worry.

733BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:45 pm

stockback


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

hiransilva23 wrote:Stockback if u really  need to buy sm big quantity u shouldn't post in this.its like a paper advertisement.lot f people c dt n they will target ur buy.

Bt I think u already bought.nw u tring to keep the price above 80 level.am i correct???


have you sold your HEXP quantity today...

734BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:47 pm

hiransilva23


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

No bro.still holding.i think v should wait alteast this week

735BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:53 pm

stockback


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

hiransilva23 wrote:No bro.still holding.i think v should wait alteast this week


that is your decision. 

i am on my way....

if they produce good result then this stock move to 150 very easily...

better to check financial report...

REXP move bcz earning improvements 

I hope HEXP also improve profits. but Safe is the first thing.....

736BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:41 pm

pfxavier


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

GRAN will definitely move to Rs 120/= before the 3rd quarter result. But I am holding my investment until its break 84/- barrier. Once its pass I will buy.

737BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:12 am

Vacations To Sri Lanka

Vacations To Sri Lanka
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

GRAN WILL AGAIN COME DOWN TO 75-77 LEVEL.DUE TO NEGATIVE BACKGROUND OF BFL AND WAITING QUARTER RESULT OF GRAN.IT WILL TAKE LITTLE BIT TIME TO RUN 100+.TRY TO GRAB MORE @ 75 .

738BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:05 pm

stockback


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Vacations To Sri Lanka wrote:GRAN WILL AGAIN COME DOWN TO 75-77 LEVEL.DUE TO NEGATIVE BACKGROUND OF BFL AND WAITING QUARTER RESULT OF GRAN.IT WILL TAKE LITTLE BIT TIME TO RUN 100+.TRY TO GRAB MORE @ 75 .


I think GRAN start again.

any idea.

if its possible to break 83 level this time. we can see above 100 Soon.

will see.....

739BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:13 pm

EquityChamp

EquityChamp
Moderator
Moderator

@ stockback, my view is that GRAN should move pass 90 mark if it is to go beyond 100 and touch 52 week high. Because that demon of dumping by top s/holders are still in people's heads.

740BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:12 am

EquityChamp

EquityChamp
Moderator
Moderator

Grain seems to have established a new support line arround 78/- as oppose to previous 70-72 levels. It's good to gave a stedy move but slow one.

741BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Hightime for GRAN Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:48 pm

troy

troy
Moderator
Moderator

So now the most awaited performances are out. Now its time for share price to keep in line with company performances.

Tomorrow reserved for chicks!!!!

742BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:54 pm

kumarweerarathne

kumarweerarathne
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

EPS down by 0.75cents, so whats da hurry?

743BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:00 pm

Vacations To Sri Lanka

Vacations To Sri Lanka
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

EPS down?  where?

744BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:02 pm

Vacations To Sri Lanka

Vacations To Sri Lanka
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

sorry.Comparing to the last quarter its down. Cant accept a big thing

745BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:05 pm

kumarweerarathne

kumarweerarathne
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

I mean da Q eps . Q1- 5.54 . Q2-4.79 isnt it??

746BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:29 pm

prabath


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

kumarweerarathne wrote:I mean da Q eps  .  Q1- 5.54 . Q2-4.79  isnt it??
mona lokeda Q1 Q2 compare karanne

747BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:37 pm

stockback


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

kumarweerarathne wrote:I mean da Q eps  .  Q1- 5.54 . Q2-4.79  isnt it??


Guys normally we have to compare with last year. last year they made 2.59 for this quarter now 4.79 this year we can expect morethan 25 then share price is 80

80/25 = 3.2 = P/E

think now chicken price increase 380 -410

748BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:40 pm

TARGET


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

prabath wrote:
kumarweerarathne wrote:I mean da Q eps  .  Q1- 5.54 . Q2-4.79  isnt it??
mona lokeda Q1 Q2 compare karanne
Thaman laga share eka nathi unama ehema thamai machan compare karanne lol!

749BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:47 pm

troy

troy
Moderator
Moderator

kumarweerarathne wrote:I mean da Q eps  .  Q1- 5.54 . Q2-4.79  isnt it??


Oh God.... machan you are not late. Can collect tomorrow morning around 80,

750BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:47 pm

nimantha80


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Jafpa has sold 8 laks in Q2 but still 3.8 million remaining.

751BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:56 pm

stockback


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

nimantha80 wrote:Jafpa has sold 8 laks in Q2 but still 3.8 million remaining.


I think Japfa not selling now. foreign attraction building now after another 3-6 Japfa can give parcel at 120 very easily 

you guys upset  for this selling no.


mainly 12.05.2016 date Director sold 5000 stocks at 81 level. Director  doing this type of cheap thing and collecting at low level. this is ugly side of business.

think and invest.....



Last edited by stockback on Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:24 pm; edited 1 time in total

752BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:58 pm

nimantha80


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

stockback wrote:
nimantha80 wrote:Jafpa has sold 8 laks in Q2 but still 3.8 million remaining.


I think Japfa not selling now. foreign attraction building now after another 3-6 Japfa can give parcel at 120 very easily 

you guys upset  for this selling no.


mainly 17.05.2016 date Director sold 5000 stocks at 81 level. Director  doing this type of cheap thing and collecting at low level. this is ugly side of business.

think and invest.....
lets see.definitely high time for gran.Tafl has moved massively compared to GRAN.Today also 50000 outflow as I remember(Gran)

753BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:08 pm

stockback


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

nimantha80 wrote:
stockback wrote:
nimantha80 wrote:Jafpa has sold 8 laks in Q2 but still 3.8 million remaining.


I think Japfa not selling now. foreign attraction building now after another 3-6 Japfa can give parcel at 120 very easily 

you guys upset  for this selling no.


mainly 17.05.2016 date Director sold 5000 stocks at 81 level. Director  doing this type of cheap thing and collecting at low level. this is ugly side of business.

think and invest.....
lets see.definitely high time for gran.Tafl has moved massively compared to GRAN.Today also 50000 outflow as I remember(Gran)


can you put foreign activity here. i mean today.

50000 stocks or Rupees...

754BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:01 pm

EquityChamp

EquityChamp
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Well, Q2 results are out with a revenue of 3537 mn and PAT of 350mn. Though this result is some what below my expectation it confirms that even within challenges this company can stand strong and I estimate still GRAN will surpass the profits achieved in 2015 by a minimum of 40%.

If I summarise what has happened with GRAN from Q1 to Q2 it would be like this.
 
Rs mnQ1 16Q2 16Q2 15QoQYoY
Rev366335373135-3%13%
GP620530355  
GP margin17%15%11%  
PBT506457230-10%99%
TAX8610729  
Effective tax rate17%23%13%  
YoY both revenue and profits grew remarkably however QoQ revenue drop by 3% and PBT drop by 10%. Why?
I anyway anticipated the QoQ revenue drop due to adverse whether prevailed in the country. The PBT decline is mainly due to revenue drop, escalating costs from raw materials and exchange rates resulting a 2pp drop in gross margins and increase in effective corporate tax rates to 23%.

This adverse situation will improve in next quarter due to following.
a) Stabilizing exchange rates (July already witnessed LKR appreciation)
b)Increase in maximum price of 1kg of chicken by Rs30 will improve the gross margins by 5 percentage points
c)demand shift from small scale players who are unable to sell at Rs410 towards branded chicken will boost the revenue in coming quarter

Now its very much certain that current performances are not similar to what this company demonstrated in 2010-11 period but it has more promising future. Moreover the retained earnings now standing at Rs3.3 bn with over 1.5bn as cash hence a good offering may be possible such as bonus issues and higher dividends. Therefore my general advice is keep holding your GRAN holdings and if the price fall below 75 level BUY some more quantity.




Quoting from CEO statement;
"The good results came from the sustained growth in revenue and efficient management, in spite of the challenges posted by  fluctuating exchange rates,  high cost of local maize, increase in taxes and adverse climatic conditions. The recent upward revision in the Maximum Retail Price of whole chicken with effect from 14 July 2016, would  help the Industry to cover the escalating cost of production to a certain extent

Thanks till the next quarter.

755BFL - CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) - Page 30 Empty Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:27 pm

newer1


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Next report definitely will be worse than this one with ongoing production failure.better to exit with chickens.
Thnks

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