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Trend in penny stocks like PAP, FLCH, BLUE etc; seems like misleading

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tubal
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Kaush


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic

I have observed following in last few weeks and thought of share my findings. I have seen a cycle formed in the market intentionally or unintentionally where retailers’ funds getting transfer in to big players hands.

1. Speculations (e.g. Takeovers, Splits etc) and manipulations (e.g. Director buys a small quantity).
2. Retailers get panicked and start buying shares and share price will go up (e.g. PAP)
3. Suddenly Directors and big players start selling stocks at huge profit.(e.g. PAP, FLCH)
4. Retailers get panicked because Directors have sold their stocks and start selling shares at a loss.
5. Share price will go down further and further
6. Again Directors will buy the shares at a huge discount.
7. Retailers start buying shares again. Reason because Directors and big players are buying and hope something good will happen.
8. Share price will start going up and big players will sell their shares again at a huge profit.

This will go on and on. I can sense that Directors will start buying PAP and FLCH again when those shares go further down. Maybe BLUE is still at the top of the above cycle and if it also manipulated one we can expect that BLUE also will follow the same. There are some other shares too, are already gone through the above cycle and about to go through. Some very famous names keep on doing this. If you go through the transaction history of some of the shares you will be able to trace this out.

tubal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Kaush wrote:I have observed following in last few weeks and thought of share my findings. I have seen a cycle formed in the market intentionally or unintentionally where retailers’ funds getting transfer in to big players hands.

1. Speculations (e.g. Takeovers, Splits etc) and manipulations (e.g. Director buys a small quantity).
2. Retailers get panicked and start buying shares and share price will go up (e.g. PAP)
3. Suddenly Directors and big players start selling stocks at huge profit.(e.g. PAP, FLCH)
4. Retailers get panicked because Directors have sold their stocks and start selling shares at a loss.
5. Share price will go down further and further
6. Again Directors will buy the shares at a huge discount.
7. Retailers start buying shares again. Reason because Directors and big players are buying and hope something good will happen.
8. Share price will start going up and big players will sell their shares again at a huge profit.

This will go on and on. I can sense that Directors will start buying PAP and FLCH again when those shares go further down. Maybe BLUE is still at the top of the above cycle and if it also manipulated one we can expect that BLUE also will follow the same. There are some other shares too, are already gone through the above cycle and about to go through. Some very famous names keep on doing this. If you go through the transaction history of some of the shares you will be able to trace this out.

you are wasting your time. I have been saying this over and over again and it's like pouring water on a ducks back. Equity markets are designed to get dumb money out of the owners pockets. You and me, we can't change that. It's evolution baby. The sooner we can get the dumb money out of the way, the sooner that the bear market will end.

Antonym

Antonym
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

tubal wrote:you are wasting your time. I have been saying this over and over again and it's like pouring water on a ducks back. Equity markets are designed to get dumb money out of the owners pockets. You and me, we can't change that. It's evolution baby. The sooner we can get the dumb money out of the way, the sooner that the bear market will end.
@tubal: We can never completely get the dumb money out of the way; there's one of them born every minute, no? We can only hope that, in time, at least some of these guys wise up to the manipulators' game...

Gaja


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

for me all the fundamental shares misleading me

tubal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Antonym wrote:
tubal wrote:you are wasting your time. I have been saying this over and over again and it's like pouring water on a ducks back. Equity markets are designed to get dumb money out of the owners pockets. You and me, we can't change that. It's evolution baby. The sooner we can get the dumb money out of the way, the sooner that the bear market will end.
@tubal: We can never completely get the dumb money out of the way; there's one of them born every minute, no? We can only hope that, in time, at least some of these guys wise up to the manipulators' game...

No my friend at the market bottom dumb money is completely out. It's represented as 0% at the bottom. That's when the last of them sell out. They will re-enter when daggers spring out of the floor and head to the cieling. When the daggers hit the ceiling is when the dumb money is usually at it's highest. But here in SL, it seems damned hard to shake them out. As you say, there is a sucker born every minute.

Fresher


Moderator
Moderator

solid shares cannot easily go beyond their fundamental value.
crap ones can create hype and more speculation drive the price.
That's why we see this situation.

But some dumb money gets lucky at the bottom and increases the dumbness and keeps trying that.

I still can remember a known person to me, when asked, saying that TAFL was in the business of TEA! (at the time it was shooting up)

TuskerLK

TuskerLK
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

What NPP saying is correct,especially good shares are not making a move,that is why MPI is lesser than ASI also.

I do not have any of those big shares except for RICH,which I bought before split and holding on long term perspective.

Other than that my PF consist of shares which I feel will start a run soon.

When the market was red over last week,my portfolio is green-most of my shares showed an up trend including PAP,VLL,ATL etc.

Now I'm collecting TWOD believing that it will have a upturn soon.

-this is not a buy or sell recommandation-

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