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101Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Mon May 28, 2012 9:32 am

Hanoifortune


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Broker's plan is to bring the market to year 2009 level and push back to end 2010 level. Agian, They can ride on poor investors . I guess that sec know this and put forward some rules to curb this using Nsb /Tfc deal.

102Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Mon May 28, 2012 9:48 am

reez


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

i also had bitter expierience. Becoz advisers are not educated on base of stoke investment.
they playing with money

103Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Mon May 28, 2012 10:31 am

Redbulls


Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

From the start I never take brokers recommendation blindly.
I was trained to do my own research before buying or selling by my mentor.
Most of the time that was hard to swallow but now I can feel that I'm out of the mess.
Basic theory in this field most of us want to get quick money and burned our capital.
Please concentrate to educate before starting trading or investing.

104Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Mon May 28, 2012 11:22 am

hunter


Moderator
Moderator

As I recall, my brokers recommendations worked very well during bull runs.
All failed during market drop.

After all, it was as good as (or a little worse than) 'random' investing.

105Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Mon May 28, 2012 11:47 am

reez


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

ASI 5000 down

106Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Mon May 28, 2012 12:39 pm

hawklk


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Even stock brokers do not have any idea what is happening to the market. They are the main reason for this down trend in my opinion.

107Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Mon May 28, 2012 8:58 pm

sureshot

sureshot
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

i think stock brokers will have to find new jobs soon.......... Very Happy

108Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Mon May 28, 2012 10:54 pm

traderathome

traderathome
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

they need to come out of their comfort zones Very Happy and bring fresh retailers like some one said somewhere Razz

109Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Mon May 28, 2012 11:55 pm

stumpy

stumpy
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

තමන් හිසට තම අතමය සෙවනැල්ල... lol!

110Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Tue May 29, 2012 2:46 am

UKboy

UKboy
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

I dont know who are the best brokers who are not. Some of my friends made good money with the help of their brokers but some lost big time. I guess there are some very genuine stock brokers are available. But its really hard to find them.
Its so funny to see that many brokers are now talking about the unpredictable market...!!! Majority of them failed to identify this down trend at least 6 months ago..! Evil or Very Mad It's quite similar situation as the many members of this forum. Many were acting like die hard bulls few months ago and advised others not to sell their stocks (even at a lost). Question

111Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Tue May 29, 2012 6:58 am

Hanoifortune

Hanoifortune
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

yes, They have to resgin from broker job and trade shares like ordinary citizen to disragrd
the new rule. what a thinking of sec? It will happen if the boker is confident that they can trade with out emplyed .Then broker companies will have to import expat to run the firms.

112Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Tue May 29, 2012 7:40 am

Antonym

Antonym
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

hunter wrote:As I recall, my brokers recommendations worked very well during bull runs.
All failed during market drop.

After all, it was as good as (or a little worse than) 'random' investing.
During bull runs, even recommendations by taxi drivers and shoe shine boys tend to do very well!

The litmus test is whether their recommendations beat the overall market on a consistent basis. My guess is: They don't... Which makes it, as you rightly said, a little worse than random investing.

113Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Tue May 29, 2012 10:17 am

suja


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Guys , there are good brokers in the system. I am dealing with a person over 10 years now. He has become a friend. But all are human we all try to do a honest job but sometimes fail. The broker has given some good advice and some have been bad. How ever I have noticed my own decisions have been like that too. Overall I have tried to invest in value shares they too have dropped by about 17% but one share has gone up almost 60% so it balances off. All the picks for the 2 years have been mine and done after analysis.

The times I have lost is looking at the analysis done in the forum and convincing my self to invest e:g: CSD which i have sold

114Capital Trust Securities  Empty Capital TRUST Research Tue May 29, 2012 10:50 am

Asoka Samarakone


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Expert

Technical Analytical Outlook

Market Makes A Double Bottom!!!
Market made a double bottom at the current level. The question is whether it will hold at this terribly oversold (RSI’s at 19 & 17!!!) level. Tomorrow’s Treasury bill auction may perhaps provide the trigger needed to turn the market around.

It is grave and it is time for all the broker firms to join hands and make a concerted effort to resurrect the market. It is useless to expect any outside party to come to its rescue. Remember that brokerages that survive this market debacle will eventually emerge as super strong entities. Anybody can thrive in a Bull Market such as what existed in 2009 – 2010. But the real test is surviving the Bear Market of 2011 – 2012.

115Capital Trust Securities  Empty Capital TRUST Research Tue May 29, 2012 11:09 am

Asoka Samarakone


Expert
Expert

Market Continues To Slide Down For No Rhyme Or Reason!!!

Market continues to slide down for no rhyme or reason. Practically all the stocks, blue chips as well as popular volatile stocks are grossly oversold and undervalued. Interest rates are showing signs of coming down as evidenced by the downward slide in Treasury bill yields at the last two auctions. CBSL did not raise their policy rates at their last monetary policy committee meeting and they are most likely to start easing rates from either June or July. Corporate results for the last financial year reaching the market currently are very encouraging. However the market remains sluggish with indices sliding down slowly on surprisingly low daily turnovers. What really ails the market is the absence of retailer interest. Big players coming and executing a crossing here and there is not going to change the depressed mood in the market. In fact it was one such disastrous crossing that worsened the market situation recently and triggered an knee jerk reaction from the regulators.

It is time for the brokers to move out of their cozy air conditioned offices and luxury cubicles and hit the streets looking for new retailers It is not that hard since the market penetration is very low in Sri Lanka. We have very much less than 0.5% of the eligible (over 18’s) population participating in stock market trading as against 30% to 70% in developed country markets. Brokers should not depend on the CSE and the SEC to do all the promotional work, a strategy which has proved to be ineffective in the past. Instead they should lobby to get a bigger share of the commission charged from market players for use in aggressive marketing campaigns and new branch openings.

116Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Tue May 29, 2012 11:41 am

hawklk


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

"It is time for the brokers to move out of their cozy air conditioned offices and luxury cubicles and hit the streets looking for new retailers It is not that hard since the market penetration is very low in Sri Lanka."

My broker (they are no longer financial advisers in my book) only call if the account is overdue. Not even once he did any promotion or sent me any research reports. I have being say this in the past "reduce the brokerage and put is in different scales"

117Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Tue May 29, 2012 11:51 am

K.Haputantri

K.Haputantri
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hawklk wrote:"It is time for the brokers to move out of their cozy air conditioned offices and luxury cubicles and hit the streets looking for new retailers It is not that hard since the market penetration is very low in Sri Lanka."

My broker (they are no longer financial advisers in my book) only call if the account is overdue. Not even once he did any promotion or sent me any research reports. I have being say this in the past "reduce the brokerage and put is in different scales"

It is the brokers who bring down the market now. This is how brokers resist recent SEC regulations on six month lock-in period on share transactions by directors, employees & their spouses.

118Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Tue May 29, 2012 2:12 pm

VISA


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Are you mad. this is worst market in the world because we lost money why are you asking every one put money in to this market now.we need to find out why market is going down. if it is brokers then it upto regulators to find out bring brokers and others order. if they can't then regulators must get out.

119Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Tue May 29, 2012 3:52 pm

mra

mra
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Dear Friends,

Every body is talking about market coming down, and ask for reasons. when the market go up everybody is happy and they don't bother to ask for the reason.

so we all participant's thinking itself sort of imbalance, what we more we argue and curse govt. and sec officials. ???

90% of participants in stock trading are traders, not investors. everybody wants quick bugs. so it's gamble. investors will only get dividend and it's not attractive so they may turn to FD's.

when you know the real reason why ASI gone up to 8500/level or more???
then you will know the reason for the market down trend. after the war it should have gone up. not that much of 8500 level.

120Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Tue May 29, 2012 3:53 pm

Kumar

Kumar
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

mra wrote:Dear Friends,

Every body is talking about market coming down, and ask for reasons. when the market go up everybody is happy and they don't bother to ask for the reason.

so we all participant's thinking itself sort of imbalance, what we more we argue and curse govt. and sec officials. ???

90% of participants in stock trading are traders, not investors. everybody wants quick bugs. so it's gamble. investors will only get dividend and it's not attractive so they may turn to FD's.

when you know the real reason why ASI gone up to 8500/level or more???
then you will know the reason for the market down trend. after the war it should have gone up. not that much of 8500 level.


Yes mate read this.
http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t18425-waiting-for-the-market-to-make-sense

121Capital Trust Securities  Empty Capital Trust -All Buy Orders Cancelled Tue May 29, 2012 8:02 pm

Storm


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic

Today, all my buy orders were canceled. When I called, I was told that it was a management decision and it was done to everybody. Did this happened to anybody else ?

122Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Tue May 29, 2012 9:44 pm

traderathome

traderathome
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Kumar wrote:
mra wrote:Dear Friends,

Every body is talking about market coming down, and ask for reasons. when the market go up everybody is happy and they don't bother to ask for the reason.

so we all participant's thinking itself sort of imbalance, what we more we argue and curse govt. and sec officials. ???

90% of participants in stock trading are traders, not investors. everybody wants quick bugs. so it's gamble. investors will only get dividend and it's not attractive so they may turn to FD's.

when you know the real reason why ASI gone up to 8500/level or more???
then you will know the reason for the market down trend. after the war it should have gone up. not that much of 8500 level.

I am First an Investor then a trader pirat The south asian markets look rather down, so i will invest for the future, and i am not complaining for hte downturn bounce bounce bounce

Yes mate read this.
http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t18425-waiting-for-the-market-to-make-sense

123Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Tue May 29, 2012 9:58 pm

prasadrmb

prasadrmb
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

thanks for sharing

124Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Tue May 29, 2012 10:16 pm

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

Weeping of a troubled broker Wink

One of the heads should be partly responsible for bringing down the market with day trading strategies.. It wiped out many new participant IMO.
When ur asked not to value investments, but look for quick gains shit happens Wink what's the point of "market will turn up soon" talks after that..

And the next issue is too much credit allowance.. These ppl created so called "hole" in the system with artificial money, then weep when the money is gone..
All businesses run on credit.. TRUE.. but too much credit is also DEVIL.

125Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Tue May 29, 2012 10:22 pm

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

Why on Earth it has to be a management decision when the money is urs.. If they inform u its for your own good then they should clarify why...

126Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Tue May 29, 2012 10:35 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics


I used to have regard for this gentlemen's skills. I still believe his technical skills are very good. But since late last year he got "biased" and made "too good to be true" over optimistic statements which unfortunately hardly come true.

So comments made has to be taken with a pinch of salt. But ?i really hope the positiveness he talks about happens soon as retailers have suffered too much in too short time.

127Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Tue May 29, 2012 10:37 pm

stumpy

stumpy
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

I'm not believing in him after their Day Trading Seminar!

@Small
Hope u can remember it boss! Very Happy

128Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Tue May 29, 2012 10:39 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

I think different brokers play games now. Some appear to shut down their trade servers some time to time for few hours!

Seems many brokers are in some sort of trouble. We need to understand playing with fire can burn us. But please do not take it out on the small guys( retailers)

129Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Tue May 29, 2012 10:44 pm

LateTackle

LateTackle
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

I bought through Capital Trust today and it was on margin.

130Capital Trust Securities  Empty Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES Tue May 29, 2012 10:48 pm

ccsentha


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

surely they cannot take any decision when the money is ours

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