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Are IMF conditions bad?

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1Are IMF  conditions  bad? Empty Are IMF conditions bad? Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:06 pm

soileconomy

soileconomy
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Dealers , Bankers . Importers, Exporters are worried about most wanted IMF next installment.
It is argued it is very important to get it at this juncture
This topic is highly related and connected which is discussed in the most annual reports under Foreign Currency Risk and other economic indicators.
But that is taken to gain and attack , by our politicians............
If we take a fair , unbiased discussion.....Where are we ?

2Are IMF  conditions  bad? Empty Re: Are IMF conditions bad? Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:47 am

UKboy

UKboy
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

soileconomy wrote:Dealers , Bankers . Importers, Exporters are worried about most wanted IMF next installment.
It is argued it is very important to get it at this juncture
This topic is highly related and connected which is discussed in the most annual reports under Foreign Currency Risk and other economic indicators.
But that is taken to gain and attack , by our politicians............
If we take a fair , unbiased discussion.....Where are we ?

However we are now in a deep s£$t. There's no quick solution for the current BOP crisis. So we have no other option but say Yes to all IMF conditions.

I can see another round of fuel hike in coming months.
I'm pretty sure government will arrange more and more international bonds in $ and that will the best temporary solution to ease the current BOP crisis.

Medium term we must encourage more n more young people to go aboard as employees.
I think government should reduce the level of Art graduates coming from local universities. It's a just waste of tax payer's money. I would love to see plumbers, carpenters, technicians are coming from local unis other than art graduates. Sorry







3Are IMF  conditions  bad? Empty Re: Are IMF conditions bad? Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:53 am

greedy

greedy
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Best person to answer is our central bank governor. At one point he misled the crowd regarding interest rates on the facility and also said Sri Lanka did not want the remaining balance from the facility.



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4Are IMF  conditions  bad? Empty Re: Are IMF conditions bad? Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:55 am

sriranga

sriranga
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UKboy wrote:
soileconomy wrote:Dealers , Bankers . Importers, Exporters are worried about most wanted IMF next installment.
It is argued it is very important to get it at this juncture
This topic is highly related and connected which is discussed in the most annual reports under Foreign Currency Risk and other economic indicators.
But that is taken to gain and attack , by our politicians............
If we take a fair , unbiased discussion.....Where are we ?

However we are now in a deep s£$t. There's no quick solution for the current BOP crisis. So we have no other option but say Yes to all IMF conditions.

I can see another round of fuel hike in coming months.
I'm pretty sure government will arrange more and more international bonds in $ and that will the best temporary solution to ease the current BOP crisis.

Medium term we must encourage more n more young people to go aboard as employees.
I think government should reduce the level of Art graduates coming from local universities. It's a just waste of tax payer's money. I would love to see plumbers, carpenters, technicians are coming from local unis other than art graduates. Sorry


Good points.
Thanks.

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5Are IMF  conditions  bad? Empty Re: Are IMF conditions bad? Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:55 am

wiki


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

soileconomy wrote:Dealers , Bankers . Importers, Exporters are worried about most wanted IMF next installment.
It is argued it is very important to get it at this juncture
This topic is highly related and connected which is discussed in the most annual reports under Foreign Currency Risk and other economic indicators.
But that is taken to gain and attack , by our politicians............
If we take a fair , unbiased discussion.....Where are we ?

Good..... than decisions make by our so called patriotic politicians

6Are IMF  conditions  bad? Empty Re: Are IMF conditions bad? Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:00 am

wiki


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

UKboy wrote:
soileconomy wrote:Dealers , Bankers . Importers, Exporters are worried about most wanted IMF next installment.
It is argued it is very important to get it at this juncture
This topic is highly related and connected which is discussed in the most annual reports under Foreign Currency Risk and other economic indicators.
But that is taken to gain and attack , by our politicians............
If we take a fair , unbiased discussion.....Where are we ?

However we are now in a deep s£$t. There's no quick solution for the current BOP crisis. So we have no other option but say Yes to all IMF conditions.

I can see another round of fuel hike in coming months.
I'm pretty sure government will arrange more and more international bonds in $ and that will the best temporary solution to ease the current BOP crisis.

Medium term we must encourage more n more young people to go aboard as employees.
I think government should reduce the level of Art graduates coming from local universities. It's a just waste of tax payer's money. I would love to see plumbers, carpenters, technicians are coming from local unis other than art graduates. Sorry


Pathetic situation is lack of visionary thinking .. we are mainly focusing on earning $ by sending house maids (just similar to sending raw materials) rather we could focus on sending more skilled persons (graduate nurses etc) for more $.

7Are IMF  conditions  bad? Empty Re: Are IMF conditions bad? Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:50 am

Kithsiri

Kithsiri
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

IMF and other reputed agencies lending development aid are not Shylock but to gain political advantages, most of the left politicians have made them look like Shylock.

Compare their conditions with some of the so-called development loans obtained recently from some of our so-called friendly nations; I see there is nothing wrong with the IMF & other agencies conditions.

However, how many of us have access to such details and government is not disclosing them and making every Sri Lankan think Like Bandula, Wimal & Vermin.

If the money borrowed in the past were put to good use than invest in white elephant projects and siphoning most off them to their personal accounts, we would have really been Wonder of Asia many decades ago.



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8Are IMF  conditions  bad? Empty Re: Are IMF conditions bad? Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:04 am

aj


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

When you borrow you become a slave to the lender.
Exceptions: Sri Lankan business tycoons who take massive loans from the government banks.

9Are IMF  conditions  bad? Empty Re: Are IMF conditions bad? Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:48 am

WildBear


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

greedy wrote:Best person to answer is our central bank governor. AT on point he misled the crowd regarding interest rates on the facility and also said Sri Lanka did not want the remaining balance from the facility.
when he was criticized earlier,well in advanced by economists, central bank governor acted as he is the monetary policy Guru, he claimed CB has more than enough reserves to defend the rupee.but next few months,he led the whole country to deep shit and now stay silent.unfortunately the public ultimately bear the cost and pay the penalty.This what happens when the sword given to the monkey to save the king.We should salute Dr P.B.Jayasundara-secretary to the treasury and many other economists who forecasted this in advance

10Are IMF  conditions  bad? Empty Re: Are IMF conditions bad? Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:19 pm

Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

aj wrote:When you borrow you become a slave to the lender.
Exceptions: Sri Lankan business tycoons who take massive loans from the government banks.
Well said friend.
Creditors always harsh.
Inter-mediators (govt) enjoy the bribe.
End users (people) suffer.

11Are IMF  conditions  bad? Empty Re: Are IMF conditions bad? Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:33 pm

greedy

greedy
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

WildBear wrote:
greedy wrote:Best person to answer is our central bank governor. AT on point he misled the crowd regarding interest rates on the facility and also said Sri Lanka did not want the remaining balance from the facility.
when he was criticized earlier,well in advanced by economists, central bank governor acted as he is the monetary policy Guru, he claimed CB has more than enough reserves to defend the rupee.but next few months,he led the whole country to deep shit and now stay silent.unfortunately the public ultimately bear the cost and pay the penalty.This what happens when the sword given to the monkey to save the king.We should salute Dr P.B.Jayasundara-secretary to the treasury and many other economists who forecasted this in advance


Well said!

12Are IMF  conditions  bad? Empty Re: Are IMF conditions bad? Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:38 pm

Monster

Monster
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

UKboy wrote:
Medium term we must encourage more n more young people to go aboard as employees.
I think government should reduce the level of Art graduates coming from local universities. It's a just waste of tax payer's money. I would love to see plumbers, carpenters, technicians are coming from local unis other than art graduates. Sorry
I welcome your idea

13Are IMF  conditions  bad? Empty Re: Are IMF conditions bad? Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:40 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

WildBear wrote:
greedy wrote:Best person to answer is our central bank governor. AT on point he misled the crowd regarding interest rates on the facility and also said Sri Lanka did not want the remaining balance from the facility.
when he was criticized earlier,well in advanced by economists, central bank governor acted as he is the monetary policy Guru, he claimed CB has more than enough reserves to defend the rupee.but next few months,he led the whole country to deep shit and now stay silent.unfortunately the public ultimately bear the cost and pay the penalty.This what happens when the sword given to the monkey to save the king.We should salute Dr P.B.Jayasundara-secretary to the treasury and many other economists who forecasted this in advance

Yes , it was reported that it was CB govenors idea to sell our reserve money to defend the $. Dr PBJ was opposing it. Not to mention also saying that we do not need the IMF facility.
This is serious lack of management skills even on IMF warnings which was made last year about defending the $.

These people in high places should understand that their decisions are not personal money and will effect the whole country. Is there no advisory board or can individuals take single decisions affecting the country like this with a sword in hand.
It a real pity that because of the lack of foresight and stubbornness many innocent people will have to suffer. No the big shots.

14Are IMF  conditions  bad? Empty Re: Are IMF conditions bad? Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:42 pm

greedy

greedy
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

slstock wrote:
WildBear wrote:
greedy wrote:Best person to answer is our central bank governor. AT on point he misled the crowd regarding interest rates on the facility and also said Sri Lanka did not want the remaining balance from the facility.
when he was criticized earlier,well in advanced by economists, central bank governor acted as he is the monetary policy Guru, he claimed CB has more than enough reserves to defend the rupee.but next few months,he led the whole country to deep shit and now stay silent.unfortunately the public ultimately bear the cost and pay the penalty.This what happens when the sword given to the monkey to save the king.We should salute Dr P.B.Jayasundara-secretary to the treasury and many other economists who forecasted this in advance

Yes , it was reported that it was CB govenors idea to sell our reserve money to defend the $. Dr PBJ was opposing it. Not to mention also saying that we do not need the IMF facility.
This is serious lack of management skills even on IMF warnings which was made last year about defending the $.

These people in high places should understand that their decisions are not personal money and will effect the whole country. Is there no advisory board or can individuals take single decisions affecting the country like this with a sword in hand.
It a real pity that because of the lack of foresight and stubbornness many innocent people will have to suffer. No the big shots.

Again the big question will anyone take responsibility OR will anyone be held accountable?

15Are IMF  conditions  bad? Empty Re: Are IMF conditions bad? Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:05 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

greedy wrote:
slstock wrote:
WildBear wrote:
greedy wrote:Best person to answer is our central bank governor. AT on point he misled the crowd regarding interest rates on the facility and also said Sri Lanka did not want the remaining balance from the facility.
when he was criticized earlier,well in advanced by economists, central bank governor acted as he is the monetary policy Guru, he claimed CB has more than enough reserves to defend the rupee.but next few months,he led the whole country to deep shit and now stay silent.unfortunately the public ultimately bear the cost and pay the penalty.This what happens when the sword given to the monkey to save the king.We should salute Dr P.B.Jayasundara-secretary to the treasury and many other economists who forecasted this in advance

Yes , it was reported that it was CB govenors idea to sell our reserve money to defend the $. Dr PBJ was opposing it. Not to mention also saying that we do not need the IMF facility.
This is serious lack of management skills even on IMF warnings which was made last year about defending the $.

These people in high places should understand that their decisions are not personal money and will effect the whole country. Is there no advisory board or can individuals take single decisions affecting the country like this with a sword in hand.
It a real pity that because of the lack of foresight and stubbornness many innocent people will have to suffer. No the big shots.

Again the big question will anyone take responsibility OR will anyone be held accountable?

To hear anyone in high places saying " I take responsibility or accountability for this issue" is like taking feathers from a tortoise. Actually I cannot remember having heard anyone in the recent past, saying this professionally or personally.

Sometimes guilt shame and principles lead people to do the correct thing or correct a mistake . How many has these ?

16Are IMF  conditions  bad? Empty Re: Are IMF conditions bad? Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:19 pm

aj


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

slstock wrote:
To hear anyone in high places saying " I take responsibility or accountability for this issue" is like taking feathers from a tortoise. Actually I cannot remember having heard anyone in the recent past, saying this professionally or personally.

Sometimes guilt shame and principles lead people to do the correct thing or correct a mistake . How many has these ?


What about that chief security guard of the politicians and their powerful friends (Sri Lankan call them the police) who resigned just a few days before his retirement after a citizen was murdered. (Did he go to a foreign embassy? Can't remember) Smile

17Are IMF  conditions  bad? Empty Re: Are IMF conditions bad? Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:23 pm

WildBear


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

greedy wrote:
slstock wrote:
WildBear wrote:
greedy wrote:Best person to answer is our central bank governor. AT on point he misled the crowd regarding interest rates on the facility and also said Sri Lanka did not want the remaining balance from the facility.
when he was criticized earlier,well in advanced by economists, central bank governor acted as he is the monetary policy Guru, he claimed CB has more than enough reserves to defend the rupee.but next few months,he led the whole country to deep shit and now stay silent.unfortunately the public ultimately bear the cost and pay the penalty.This what happens when the sword given to the monkey to save the king.We should salute Dr P.B.Jayasundara-secretary to the treasury and many other economists who forecasted this in advance

Yes , it was reported that it was CB govenors idea to sell our reserve money to defend the $. Dr PBJ was opposing it. Not to mention also saying that we do not need the IMF facility.
This is serious lack of management skills even on IMF warnings which was made last year about defending the $.

These people in high places should understand that their decisions are not personal money and will effect the whole country. Is there no advisory board or can individuals take single decisions affecting the country like this with a sword in hand.
It a real pity that because of the lack of foresight and stubbornness many innocent people will have to suffer. No the big shots.

Again the big question will anyone take responsibility OR will anyone be held accountable?
Accountability and Responsibility are not in vocabulary of Sri Lankan policy makers. We know there were clear evidence of many frauds,corruptions,violation of laws in past, but no one was sued. Some times talking about accountability is a reason for you to be labeled as a terrorist supporter or traitor.

By the way, what happened to those who wanted to salvage SL economy by pulling out the plug to IMF,World Bank those days. Now the same gang has to beg or Worship the IMF and World Bank. This is the terrible standards of politics in Sri Lanka.

18Are IMF  conditions  bad? Empty Re: Are IMF conditions bad? Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:47 pm

soileconomy

soileconomy
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

We have to have a transparent policy towards Foreign exchange .
I may take a bow for UKboy's long term vision.We have look at the foreign job opportunities as a main source of foreign income(like India) which could generate more foreign income.
But we cant blame politicians alone for this ,most of us have to take the responsibility.(no support of setting up private universities,medical colleges,limit producing art degree holders, give government employments for undergraduates. TRADE UNION MAFIA-government sector).

Our policy should be to protect exporters more than importers.

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