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BFL, TAFL, GRAN - seems mega chicken rally soon

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Dr_CSE
market bull
SL.Market
suja
smallville
Rajitha
econ
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Slstock
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suja


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Hey , I admire all the post why only posts by one person. What Rajitha has said is great though not going good with the rest of us. What Sl stock has said is also true it is us who take the final decision so look at both the positive and negative and move forward.

I am a CTC and a CTEA lover any other close to monopoly products I will look at , but the trend for the past one month is diffrerent and if you dont do trades in this enviorenment you would be foolish

Slstock


Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

We will admire all people who make positive or negative comments on any share but they should respect others and do not make false accusations . Also they have the right to dicuss matters politely. Some should also reliase they have commented and had interest on shares at one time that have also fallen to dust now. No body is God. If they are traders or short term player , who left the market and do not hold, do so . No problem. But do not insult others falsely. trying to show their superiority. Few members here have been with the forum and CSE through thick and thin.

I am speakign out , as there are several people missing who should comment here and I was unreasonably dragged into this because I showed interest on GRAN due to their growth potential at one point. Also this conversation alwasy comes without end. Lately policy issues, feed costs has hampered the industry. But it can change ( as with everythign in life)


BTW, why beat around the bush. Smallville, Econ , Innam and several other were accused on this matter. I hope these people will make comments here.

The real chicken promoters were not in this forum. So chicken haters should go to those places and make accusation without blaming a few retailer who have interest. We try our best to reduce promotions in this forum.

If some can find a post I made to promote a share I challenge them to prove it. If I cannot comment on a share , then all these analysis I make and knoweldge I learn the hard way I share will stop.

Remember who was here at the forum during difficult times and making comments here. Only a handful.







I hope every one here respects other withotu showing they know everything.

suja wrote:Hey , I admire all the post why only posts by one person. What Rajitha has said is great though not going good with the rest of us. What Sl stock has said is also true it is us who take the final decision so look at both the positive and negative and move forward.

I am a CTC and a CTEA lover any other close to monopoly products I will look at , but the trend for the past one month is diffrerent and if you dont do trades in this enviorenment you would be foolish



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smallville


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

Rajitha,

Its not anyone's fault that you didnt notice the chicken shares. Ppl who invested in BFL about 2-3 yeas back harvested in 2011 run, so there's nothing wrong with it.. After all its an investment proved to have matured early..
Then there was PCH.. after a huge collocation at 9 it started the run.. So many cashed out.. It had some salient features to become a good company but the management was adamant and didnt see the customer correctly. So we had to forget its an emerging company.

BFL on the other hand was a company with less debt and a solid income stream with various products. Even maize added the benefits to the bottom line. Any company cant have Qtr-Qtr growth, Some times due to disasters, policy changes or in this case a change in eating patterns or buying patterns due to the increase of living cost, all chicken companies may find revenue drops.. Like wise there are temporary setbacks as well as permanent issues. What we should worry about the latter not even the 10-20 drop in revenue qtr-wise.
Every qty will not be like that in chicken we know the Q3 would be a better one historically..
Ok lets forget chicken,.

Hope you could put aside your anger for some shares and contribute the forum genuinely. We all know that u loved plantations. So why cant u talk about those since its very rare that we talk abt those shares now..
Rubber has many ups n downs hence KGAL could be affected but we know KGAL was a gem before the wage hike issue.. Remember u told that its a knee-jerk reaction..
So these are the things that we should talk about...

Humour is always welcome but attacks without facts are not healthy for a forum. Just becuz some one doesn't like your idea or have another opinion u dont become a fool..
Remember few days ago I said SL economy is slowly going up, then u came and brought a good bar chart and indicated we're not that strong in that dept.. Did I try to find any thing to attack u cuz u were not in my pages? No.. It was also part of learning.. Its just one example we might see things in different ways Wink

SLS,

Rajitha is stil learning from his mistakes so its good that we take it not serious..
As both of u are academics and u being a senior one, u might've seen 101 guys in this attitude..

Surprisingly Rajitha wont learn.. And if he's not willing to change the attitudes and contribute we might find its a bad idea to feed him Wink

SL.Market


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

SLS..
Please don't challenge to any body to show you are correct and don't wast ur valuable time this type of argument in such a sunny season we are having...

Enjoy.... This is not the time for hot argument

Slstock


Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

SL.Market wrote:SLS..
Please don't challenge to any body to show you are correct and don't wast ur valuable time this type of argument in such a sunny season we are having...

Enjoy.... This is not the time for hot argument

SL Market,
Bottom line, people should respect others and have proof for accusations if they want to do one.
Hope you remember the hard time you had SL.Market ?

I never said I am correct. But false accusation I will not tolerate just like any one will not.


Small,
I agree. Sometimes it is waste to spend time with people who are not sensitive or receptive to others opinions. But nobody would like a false accusation.


On the topic

I already mentioned what I need to say at this time about the poultry sector. Today these share held their ground from yesterday even during the down turn. Lets see what the future is . Short term players be alert and trade smart. , long term players: identify and study the risks and gains in this sector which I beleiev has potential.

If you are a chicken hater don;t invest. Simple.

Rajitha

Rajitha
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Funny thing is people asking for evidence and all I have done is given them some old evidence! I never went off and told people not to buy these shares last time when they shot up ! To the contrary I told it might not be a healthy one and only started to tell people not to buy when it started to shoot down! You people also go check what you have posted!

BTW I don't regrets like you smallvile not having invested in chicken shares back then as I already made a huge return investing on other shares! The only regret I have from those days is even going against my own instinct I did not cash out some fundamental shares(about 50% of my portfolio)!
Also I never said like some people here to go by any time of shares when they are going down! OR made false calculations! All my calculations I predicted regarding earnings were very close to the real figures even if the share prices does not appreciate!

PS:- Anyway I don't care a whole lot what most think but I'm just here to do my duty to educate the newcomers about both sides of the story than all ganking up and promoting certain stocks! Though it does help when there are soo many people here who I can always count on to be wrong Very Happy

SL.Market

SL.Market
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

slstock wrote:
SL.Market wrote:SLS..
Please don't challenge to any body to show you are correct and don't wast ur valuable time this type of argument in such a sunny season we are having...

Enjoy.... This is not the time for hot argument

SL Market,
Bottom line, people should respect others and have proof for accusations if they want to do one.
Hope you remember the hard time you had SL.Market ?

I never said I am correct. But false accusation I will not tolerate just like any one will not.


Small,
I agree. Sometimes it is waste to spend time with people who are not sensitive or receptive to others opinions. But nobody would like a false accusation.


On the topic

I already mentioned what I need to say at this time about the poultry sector. Today these share held their ground from yesterday even during the down turn. Lets see what the future is . Short term players be alert and trade smart. , long term players: identify and study the risks and gains in this sector which I believe has potential.

If you are a chicken hater don;t invest. Simple.

Yes... Why not
I continue here because of you
I personally think u should not argue with this type of people...
They come and go but u will be here for ever in EF...
Good Luck sir



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market bull

market bull
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

BFL 1st q EPS is 3.1 with associate company profit adjustment.I dont think they will get super EPS in 2nd q also.Max 4-5.

All are expecting super EPS in 3 rd & 4th q's like last year.sometime they may get,but how can we tell exactly.If q3 profit is not good,Big guns will exit nicely from this share before publish date q3 a/c's.Finally who has to suffer,only retail investors.

This share is overvalued with current figures.

If you have simply earned money you can try your luck.

Next year ake goda ennath puluwan, naththatama nativennath puluwan.Decision is yours.

Market.Player wrote:Short Term (September'2012) Tragets,

BFL - EPS 28 X say PER 8 = Rs.224/- plus
TAFL - EPS 12 X say PER 8 = Rs.96/- plus
GRAN - EPS 15 X say PER 8 = Rs.120/- plus

Party time soon..

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

Rajitha wrote:
BTW I don't regrets like you smallvile not having invested in chicken shares back then as I already made a huge return investing on other shares!

Poor you dont seem to read much.. good if you have invested like us at least I mean in alternatives..

Rajitha wrote:
PS:- Anyway I don't care a whole lot what most think but I'm just here to do my duty to educate the newcomers about both sides of the story than all ganking up and promoting certain stocks! Though it does help when there are soo many people here who I can always count on to be wrong Very Happy

Good attitude.. Pls keep posting and educate new comers.. That's what strive to achive in this forum..
However, as u say many ppl will be wrong and you would be correct then you have something to happy about Wink.. After all you have so much of experience in CSE now so you can go in line with the well experienced ones.. Good luck with that..

We must always should know that we need to cash out when necessary, either shares are fundamentally strong or crap. If not we cannot take the short term volatilities in to our benefit..

If some one argues that we need to hold on to something that we bought at 150 after seeing it passing 400. Hell yeah. Hold.. Then when its beaten down to 200.. u can still hold.. But coming closer to 160 if you dont sell and protect your capital, having faith that it would pass 150 wont help.. At least if you dont sell it at 140 and recover a majority of your capital, looking at it when its at 100 or 120 make u miserable.. After all if you think about it, its not faith, its stupidity which we didnt realize at first place..

econ

econ
Global Moderator

We love chicken run but Rajitha loves plantation run Very Happy
Anyway Rajitha does not comment on plantations these days , I wonder why?? Very Happy

MerdoxR

MerdoxR
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

He is vegetarian Laughing

Dr_CSE


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Poultry shares on slow collection this morning. Those who love chicken run better get into bus while it is at the bus stop. Running into the moving bus may cause damage. We might see a chicken run this afternoon or tomorrow morning.

malanp


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics


In CSE, a share becomes a GEM only once, no second time.

and trading pattern also never repeat.

That is the unique feature of CSE.

So if you think chicken run will start again, based on CSE history it can not happen.

buwr


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic

market bull wrote:BFL 1st q EPS is 3.1 with associate company profit adjustment.I dont think they will get super EPS in 2nd q also.Max 4-5.

All are expecting super EPS in 3 rd & 4th q's like last year.sometime they may get,but how can we tell exactly.If q3 profit is not good,Big guns will exit nicely from this share before publish date q3 a/c's.Finally who has to suffer,only retail investors.

This share is overvalued with current figures.

If you have simply earned money you can try your luck.

Next year ake goda ennath puluwan, naththatama nativennath puluwan.Decision is yours.

Market.Player wrote:Short Term (September'2012) Tragets,

BFL - EPS 28 X say PER 8 = Rs.224/- plus
TAFL - EPS 12 X say PER 8 = Rs.96/- plus
GRAN - EPS 15 X say PER 8 = Rs.120/- plus

Party time soon..


Monday BFL will 200

tata


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic

BFL is a highly manipulated share.
Irrespective of eps , this can be 200 , 300 or even back again where it was.
BFL recorded high eps in Q2/Q3 in 2010/11 mainly due to increased margin than volume.

All will depend 15 -20 players ........................

Test your luck!

aship

aship
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

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