Hidden side of the RED.....

malanp wrote:

There are only two options, red or green.. up or down.

if somebody says market will be down, he is not an exceptional forcaster, just one among 50%.

When it becomes 50% * 50% *50% 50% that becomes 6.5% chance of becoming wrong and on the other side of the spectrum for some it is 6.25% chance of being right.

I'm 2 fed up here to post all the time from past these ppl have posted saying ppl to hold on and keep buying financially sound shares at peak values. Go and serach and youu can find at every market down rend and you can find these so called experts saying ppl to not panic and sell but to buy shares!

Some of us are getting fed up with people like you who cannot understand Simple Concepts between short term and long term and always try to highlight their personal strategy as the one and only for all.

Picking only words of part of sentence and using it to their personal benefit is not done. Read the whole post/s and then comment. If one tries to abuse and insult others, atleast have the decency to read the whole context the paragraph and then comment without picking words here and there.


Not everyone here is a short term trader. If you don;t like a post just ignore without thread crapping. Everybody has a right state their views in a decent way.


If CSE becomes a trader heaven like your strategy god help CSE to sustain in down trends. Everybody will sell out at the slightest pin drop and there will be no buyers. Who will but then. Thank goodness there are top 20 holder and Investors with ethics to not desert CSE and companies like changing pillows just because in the short term something goes wrong. When market goes up all these people vanish as they make use of it. Down trend is when they emerge.

But as a retailer one if free to choose their best stategy to suit their mentality. Short term trading , medium/long term investment.

Some of us follow all 3. It is our freedom. Kindly do not come here occasionally when market is Red and try to pick words here and there and show your superiority. Personal issue that you may seem to individually have is not entertained.

we got a taste of you below
http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t22325-cdb-share-to-keep-an-eye-on


I have been trying to talk sense to you for years now. PMs, polite requests , nothign works .

When certain seniors really took on to you I even defended you . Then you decided to stay way from the forum to your fancy, Suddenly you come back and tart the same slandeing process. You never learn. You are just the same person who does not respect others views. So I also have lost respect for oyu.

However I do admit that you state logical thigns at times. For those I appreciate.

Rajitha wrote:

malanp wrote:

There are only two options, red or green.. up or down.

if somebody says market will be down, he is not an exceptional forcaster, just one among 50%.

When it becomes 50% * 50% *50% 50% that becomes 6.5% chance of becoming wrong and on the other side of the spectrum for some it is 6.25% chance of being right.

I'm 2 fed up here to post all the time from past these ppl have posted saying ppl to hold on and keep buying financially sound shares at peak values. Go and serach and youu can find at every market down rend and you can find these so called experts saying ppl to not panic and sell but to buy shares!

What people should really get fed up with promoters promoting shares at peak when they can buy the same share more than 50% less if they buy at the right time In this forum long term is all the experts speak a they buy at peak always and for them buying at Rs1000 and selling at rs 1100 after 10 years is a great strategy :
For them person buying that same stock at Rs 500 and selling at rs 800 in 2 month time are traders with no value

I open this tread to understand memebers mind set, but it went in a umexpected path. Because of that I (we) understood one person's mindset. Anyway there are plenty of things to learn from this.
Thank you sls, you have posted great threads in this forum, which helped a lot for us. True you and some are told that the market need a correction since it is overbought. Now it is happening... But it seems it is heading for over correction. Because of panic and may be manipulation.
Sls... Do not worry about those kind of ppl. Keep up the good work you do.
Dear members, one thing I can say, market is heading again to over correction unless happen any strange thing. Therefore do not buy on credit. This is a good lesson for who are trading with lots of credit. If play on credit, go with a control, which you can handle when mrkt turn red.

@ opfdo

Yep this people are talking nonsense. some dont kw hw to build a good argument with out attacking others. They are very immature. Even cant understand what promotion is. And who the hell think that we can promote a share through this forum. We need big brokers to promote a share. Any way,,,,,,

There are people who said that mkt will never have a bull when ASI was around 4800. They talked nonsense and blamed every body in the forum who wanted to say CSE is undervalued. After having a 1000 points bull run the same fellow again blame every body saying nonsense . I dont wt to do friends. Please dont disturb others and respect every body. This may be the last time i comment on a horrible arguments Like this where people attack.

Tc

Opfdo and Amal

Am glad atleast 2 people here understand the reality of these nonsense disruptive conversations without facts. Narrow mindness is an evil that can cause harm more.


Amal :
Please do not give up commenting . Else the few who do state somethign sensible will vanish.

another thing i realised, most of the members are here very very selfish with no values..........

slstock wrote:Opfdo and Amal

Am glad atleast 2 people here understand the reality of these nonsense disruptive conversations without facts. Narrow mindness is an evil that can cause harm more.


Amal :
Please do not give up commenting . Else the few who do state somethign sensible will vanish.

opfdo wrote:I open this tread to understand memebers mind set, but it went in a umexpected path. Because of that I (we) understood one person's mindset. Anyway there are plenty of things to learn from this.
Thank you sls, you have posted great threads in this forum, which helped a lot for us. True you and some are told that the market need a correction since it is overbought. Now it is happening... But it seems it is heading for over correction. Because of panic and may be manipulation.
Sls... Do not worry about those kind of ppl. Keep up the good work you do.
Dear members, one thing I can say, market is heading again to over correction unless happen any strange thing. Therefore do not buy on credit. This is a good lesson for who are trading with lots of credit. If play on credit, go with a control, which you can handle when mrkt turn red.

Thanks opfdo to open this thread.
A. Few things i would like to mention here
1. Are we witnessing badly given credit, now clearing by famous STBs ? - Yes, I agree.
2. Panic selling combined with blue chip profit taking ? - 50% , 50%
3. .......ppl are collecting by forcelly down the market through force selling, since now they can sell any time. - That i'm not sure. but yes few counters we can witness this.

B. @SLS - I don't think you have to "justify" yourself or repeatedly explain over meaningless argument. We all know you have done a good job in advice and sharing your thoughts on behalf of forum members. I am thanking for your effort.

C. What i think is market will be green today due to over correction has happened yesterday. But if market continue on red, That will be a problem.

NOp ss.....

I dont stop commenting. I stop this crap arguments and not participate for those to prove that some body is wrong or right. It eats our time miserably.
Tc

Rajitha wrote:

malanp wrote:

There are only two options, red or green.. up or down.

if somebody says market will be down, he is not an exceptional forcaster, just one among 50%.

When it becomes 50% * 50% *50% 50% that becomes 6.5% chance of becoming wrong and on the other side of the spectrum for some it is 6.25% chance of being right.

I'm 2 fed up here to post all the time from past these ppl have posted saying ppl to hold on and keep buying financially sound shares at peak values. Go and serach and youu can find at every market down rend and you can find these so called experts saying ppl to not panic and sell but to buy shares!

Well ppl should buy on dips.. where else they should buy? Every time the market go down all the fundas also go down and if you have the capacity u should collect slowly.. Ppl dont keep cash in hand, they have to borrow/withdraw from banks, wait till the salary is received to buy their favorite counters..
Then u should buy when u have money..

When u buy a fundamentally good counter, due to dull market conditions, it can further lose ground and say the counter you buy a week back is 10 rupees low today.. So is it the end of the world?
But what's wrong in buying for long term merits in mind?

Many ppl dont have time to monitor the market everyday.. Some cannot login to their accounts even in office environment. So for those ppl a med-long term portfolio with shares bought at a certain dip may still valid to hold.
Some ppl I know still have KGAL shares bought at 140, NAMU @ 60s, LWL @ 100 or so holding with the belief that these companies would do shine in future..

I hope one day u realize that when you point fingers at 4 ppl time to time, 3 fingers pointed back at you 4 times...
Which means if u try to prove one person is wrong, 3 ppl will try to prove u wrong..
But then again many of us dont have the time to dig in to graves.. Its a waste of time and energy.. Also its a waste of time of the forum readers too
If one person particularly trying to promote some shares they bought high with 1000 inspirational talks, I believe we should do that for the benefit of others but other than that I dont find a reason why or how we would benefit from any personal grudges or mud campaigns..

Rajitha wrote: What people should really get fed up with promoters promoting shares at peak when they can buy the same share more than 50% less if they buy at the right time In this forum long term is all the experts speak a they buy at peak always and for them buying at Rs1000 and selling at rs 1100 after 10 years is a great strategy :
For them person buying that same stock at Rs 500 and selling at rs 800 in 2 month time are traders with no value

Yesterday market went down more than 1%, so capitalizing on that u could even sell when it topped .5% today.. But that's a trade...

And some ppl prefer to hold on to their shares 2-3 years.. If they know the values of the company and how rosy the future could be they dont buy shares @ 500 and sell at 800.. Cuz when u sell at 800, it might not even come there again then ur buying at a higher value..

Also markets go on psychological cycles.. So there is a chance in next cycle for everyone..

If a person is successful doing day-trading, they should continue it.. If a person is successful in med-long term holding, they should continue it.. One wise thing in long term holds is that a person checks his/her profile once is a while to see whether there are selling opportunities in between.. i.e. Just like the millionaire made by BFL stories we hear.. Though the story was a bit fabricated, there's something to learn from it..
Buy and sell at correct times and buy back on pull backs..

I think, all these personal level arguments should end. If you are attacked personally, please remain silent, without trying to prove you are right and the other one is wrong. If you really have to, answer the logical points only; never get involved in an argument. You achieve nothing at the end other than the satisfaction that you retaliated; that itself gets you nowhere. Please contribute to productive discussions.

Expert wrote:I think, all these personal level arguments should end. If you are attacked personally, please remain silent, without trying to prove you are right and the other one is wrong. If you really have to, answer the logical points only; never get involved in an argument. You achieve nothing at the end other than the satisfaction that you retaliated; that itself gets you nowhere. Please contribute to productive discussions.

Absolutely..

Expert wrote:I think, all these personal level arguments should end. If you are attacked personally, please remain silent, without trying to prove you are right and the other one is wrong. If you really have to, answer the logical points only; never get involved in an argument. You achieve nothing at the end other than the satisfaction that you retaliated; that itself gets you nowhere. Please contribute to productive discussions.

This shows his expertly as an expert

Back to the market now......... wish I had a bit of shopping money today.

Expert wrote:I think, all these personal level arguments should end. If you are attacked personally, please remain silent, without trying to prove you are right and the other one is wrong. If you really have to, answer the logical points only; never get involved in an argument. You achieve nothing at the end other than the satisfaction that you retaliated; that itself gets you nowhere. Please contribute to productive discussions.

Until it happens to you and you are dragged into unjustifiable attacks from no where Silence is golden. But remember everyone has a limit to be silent . If one has B___ they can;t stay silent for ever if certain people behave in extreme ways. We need some honor code here and decorum.



Kindly understand some of us are wasting time here thinking to do social service . In June july this forum was almost dying. Some of us stuck here through thick and thin and tried to help the society with genuine intention.

The least courtesy we expect from people is to behave fair and decently and not accuse wrongly . Many would benefit silently from analysis we do but fail to thank. But they will readily accuse. That is human nature. But now do we have to stand for attacks also.
If one has issues , prove with facts . Not with nonsense. Lot of of people are here to get benefit but not stand up for what is wrong.

Ethics in Sri Lanka is at lows. If we want to develop this country some serious adjustment in Ethic and Attitude has to come. Other member of the forum also need to realize this. This forum is small society. We can start here.

Are we here only to make money by some hook or crook? Do we not have social responsibilty. Even in investing should follow ethics. Good money earned will last longer ( Ican;t prove this). What I am saying is all related to CSE and our country as far as I can see, That why I mentioned all this.


Be deent humans. Be decent investors. Be fair people. And life will treat you better in the longer run.

Excellent advice to all Thanks

slstock wrote:

Expert wrote:I think, all these personal level arguments should end. If you are attacked personally, please remain silent, without trying to prove you are right and the other one is wrong. If you really have to, answer the logical points only; never get involved in an argument. You achieve nothing at the end other than the satisfaction that you retaliated; that itself gets you nowhere. Please contribute to productive discussions.

Until it happens to you and you are dragged into unjustifiable attacks from no where Silence is golden. But remember everyone has a limit to be silent . If one has B___ they can;t stay silent for ever if certain people behave in extreme ways. We need some honor code here and decorum.



Kindly understand some of us are wasting time here thinking to do social service . In June july this forum was almost dying. Some of us stuck here through thick and thin and tried to help the society with genuine intention.

The least courtesy we expect from people is to behave fair and decently and not accuse wrongly . Many would benefit silently from analysis we do but fail to thank. But they will readily accuse. That is human nature. But now do we have to stand for attacks also.
If one has issues , prove with facts . Not with nonsense. Lot of of people are here to get benefit but not stand up for what is wrong.

Ethics in Sri Lanka is at lows. If we want to develop this country some serious adjustment in Ethic and Attitude has to come. Other member of the forum also need to realize this. This forum is small society. We can start here.

Are we here only to make money by some hook or crook? Do we not have social responsibilty. Even in investing should follow ethics. Good money earned will last longer ( Ican;t prove this). What I am saying is all related to CSE and our country as far as I can see, That why I mentioned all this.


Be deent humans. Be decent investors. Be fair people. And life will treat you better in the longer run.

Dear Sir..
I as a long term loyalty member to Equity Forum, admire you and your contribution to the forum. No need explanations to that. Many times I saw You wasting your valuable time in unnecessary arguments. That is why I agree with Expert.
Good Luck

SL.Market wrote:
Admire your contribution to the forum. No need explanations to that. Many times I saw You wasting your valuable time in unnecessary arguments.

I wholeheartedly agree.
( As usual the Minority is very vocal but the majority is silent in this forum too ).
Keep up the Good works Slstock.

slstock wrote:

Kindly understand some of us are wasting time here thinking to do social service . In June july this forum was almost dying. Some of us stuck here through thick and thin and tried to help the society with genuine intention.

The least courtesy we expect from people is to behave fair and decently and not accuse wrongly . Many would benefit silently from analysis we do but fail to thank. But they will readily accuse. That is human nature. But now do we have to stand for attacks also.

OH yes.. The ppl who had seen hell has nothing to fear..

Many pundits vanished during the extreme bear period.. God knows what happened to their so called 'expert' comments on market and counters..
Then when ASI see a bit of green they come here and again start showing some attitude..

Well we cant correct ppl, that's even not the purpose we hear..
We should only honestly think they would correct their selves in due course..

Lecturers or not there are professionals in various fields here... Some shows a real character deformations that shame the breed even..

slstock wrote:

Expert wrote:I think, all these personal level arguments should end. If you are attacked personally, please remain silent, without trying to prove you are right and the other one is wrong. If you really have to, answer the logical points only; never get involved in an argument. You achieve nothing at the end other than the satisfaction that you retaliated; that itself gets you nowhere. Please contribute to productive discussions.

Until it happens to you and you are dragged into unjustifiable attacks from no where Silence is golden. But remember everyone has a limit to be silent . If one has B___ they can;t stay silent for ever if certain people behave in extreme ways. We need some honor code here and decorum.



Kindly understand some of us are wasting time here thinking to do social service . In June july this forum was almost dying. Some of us stuck here through thick and thin and tried to help the society with genuine intention.

The least courtesy we expect from people is to behave fair and decently and not accuse wrongly . Many would benefit silently from analysis we do but fail to thank. But they will readily accuse. That is human nature. But now do we have to stand for attacks also.
If one has issues , prove with facts . Not with nonsense. Lot of of people are here to get benefit but not stand up for what is wrong.

Ethics in Sri Lanka is at lows. If we want to develop this country some serious adjustment in Ethic and Attitude has to come. Other member of the forum also need to realize this. This forum is small society. We can start here.

Are we here only to make money by some hook or crook? Do we not have social responsibilty. Even in investing should follow ethics. Good money earned will last longer ( Ican;t prove this). What I am saying is all related to CSE and our country as far as I can see, That why I mentioned all this.



Be deent humans. Be decent investors. Be fair people. And life will treat you better in the longer run.

Well said SLS. I have noticed deliberate low level targeting of seniors the in the recent past and add to that a teenage mutant ninja analyst. I started following the forum in Jan 2011 an utter novice. Thanks to you guys I have learned much and earned some. Also endorse experts strategy in dealing with the idiots.

This is my very 1st post in this forum and the trigger for that was nothing but to appreciate slstock for your professional approach for a sensitive issue and the manner how you have communicated it for the benifit of the others. Keep up your good work.

wimalajeewa wrote:This is my very 1st post in this forum

Welcome to the Forum !

Thank you all for your contribution educating members like us, specially the people like slstock, kithsiri who are spending their valuable time keeping the forum interesting at difficult time.

Market is getting attractive day by day. That's what i know for the moment.

SL.Market wrote: Many times I saw You wasting your valuable time in unnecessary arguments.

Agreed with SL.market on his comment. Dont take these things seriously...

Rajitha wrote: What people should really get fed up with promoters promoting shares at peak when they can buy the same share more than 50% less if they buy at the right time In this forum long term is all the experts speak a they buy at peak always and for them buying at Rs1000 and selling at rs 1100 after 10 years is a great strategy :
For them person buying that same stock at Rs 500 and selling at rs 800 in 2 month time are traders with no value

I think you got dementia at young age, then who told to buy plantation stocks when ASI above 7000,
By the way as you claimed in an earlier post you entered the stock market after 2009 , and Im surprised with your knowledge to time the market with great precision. You got the magical ability to time the rock bottom and the peak. I think you must have become a HNWI over last couple of years with you sharp knowledge and trading skills. Why don't you start q fund managing company. I will give my all assets to be managerd by you to be billionaire very soon.

WildBear wrote:

Rajitha wrote: What people should really get fed up with promoters promoting shares at peak when they can buy the same share more than 50% less if they buy at the right time In this forum long term is all the experts speak a they buy at peak always and for them buying at Rs1000 and selling at rs 1100 after 10 years is a great strategy :
For them person buying that same stock at Rs 500 and selling at rs 800 in 2 month time are traders with no value

I think you got dementia at young age, then who told to buy plantation stocks when ASI above 7000,
By the way as you claimed in an earlier post you entered the stock market after 2009 , and Im surprised with your knowledge to time the market with great precision. You got the magical ability to time the rock bottom and the peak. I think you must have become a HNWI over last couple of years with you sharp knowledge and trading skills. Why don't you start q fund managing company. I will give my all assets to be managerd by you to be billionaire very soon.

he has entered to the market in October 2010 (He has stated some time ago), which means he has entered to the market when it was almost at peak. He must be either lucky or well talented to identify the top and bottom, though he as only 2 years experience in CSE. I can remember, he was expecting DIMO to reach Rs 3000/-. But finally what happened? You can predict the market some time, but you can't be correct always.

WildBear wrote:

Rajitha wrote: What people should really get fed up with promoters promoting shares at peak when they can buy the same share more than 50% less if they buy at the right time In this forum long term is all the experts speak a they buy at peak always and for them buying at Rs1000 and selling at rs 1100 after 10 years is a great strategy :
For them person buying that same stock at Rs 500 and selling at rs 800 in 2 month time are traders with no value

I think you got dementia at young age, then who told to buy plantation stocks when ASI above 7000,
By the way as you claimed in an earlier post you entered the stock market after 2009 , and Im surprised with your knowledge to time the market with great precision. You got the magical ability to time the rock bottom and the peak. I think you must have become a HNWI over last couple of years with you sharp knowledge and trading skills. Why don't you start q fund managing company. I will give my all assets to be managerd by you to be billionaire very soon.

Actually I entered market in end of 2010 as monster stated and anyway and you can't be come a billionaire overnight! AS I have mentioned I posted here go check always the top when to sell and cash out for who ever was interested. They all became true.(As always mainly those days when whole forum was against me) Also for you info I have had over 2 offers last year to invest their cash on behalf of them and I will get 20% of the profit. One was a moderator or admin or something here. Just saying.

Also No one make 100% correct predictions. But it matters if you can get most of them right and to make it count for the once you do! I did make good cash out of plantation stocks even if ASI was over 7k. But yes I did make a mistake with DIMO and I' still averaging and holding those stuff. Those are the 30% portfolios I did not sell out this time. BTW one reason I got in trouble with those junk is because of the advice from seniors here opinion here! I was naive then and believed the market is run on EPS and PE ratios and PBV

PS:- Lucky or not, I have posted most shares I have purchased and even posted my share lists many times. I have invested most of my cash at market peaks (7000+) and still with over 30% profit!

Hello everyone,

Isnt it better to let others know your inestment method if you want to disclose so that everyone will learn fron it and apply if found within your scope. Also we will know whether the person is genuin or not.

Now to value investing to correct what is said above. I have been in the market for a little long now , but lets take the year that was mentioned. I consuntrated on 2. CTC/CTEA as I thought one was a monopoly and the otger a very good brand. Stated collecting when ever I had funds. PE was a bit high but forward PE and potential was great. Most importantly the cash in the busineess was good. And also the shareholding was tight with little public partcipation. Now this is some of the criteria used by me.

I did not loose one has appreciated close to 100% with rich divident the other has not done so well the appreciation in total has been about 17% as i have collected some at top also due to un availabilty.

Lets not waste time arguing this is a good forum with lot of genuine contributors lets make sure we use every ones knowledge to invest wisely and do not get caught to scam artists.

suja wrote:Hello everyone,

Isnt it better to let others know your inestment method if you want to disclose so that everyone will learn fron it and apply if found within your scope. Also we will know whether the person is genuin or not.

Now to value investing to correct what is said above. I have been in the market for a little long now , but lets take the year that was mentioned. I consuntrated on 2. CTC/CTEA as I thought one was a monopoly and the otger a very good brand. Stated collecting when ever I had funds. PE was a bit high but forward PE and potential was great. Most importantly the cash in the busineess was good. And also the shareholding was tight with little public partcipation. Now this is some of the criteria used by me.

I did not loose one has appreciated close to 100% with rich divident the other has not done so well the appreciation in total has been about 17% as i have collected some at top also due to un availabilty.

Lets not waste time arguing this is a good forum with lot of genuine contributors lets make sure we use every ones knowledge to invest wisely and do not get caught to scam artists.

yes timely advise