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301RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 16 Empty Re: RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:17 pm

dayandacool


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@geesura wrote:Stock is not the company RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 16 1f603 .


RAL,RWSL,RIL,BIL,LDEV,EMER,HVA are trading stocks .

What is the definition of a trading stock?? is there anything like that at all?   Very Happy

It's all up to the individual. If you are in the stock market to earn money and increase ur wealth, all that you do is trading unless you have a controlling stake in a company and you want to get in to the management and change it's course. I'm pretty sure non of us have such liberties. So yes, All what you do here is trading.

I do not hold RWSL. Wanted to buy below 5 rs but failed. Good luck to those who bought it. With time and proven results, It could reach double digits IMO

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

PS, going by ur list you mentioned above, EXPO was a trading stock 6 months back and now it's not??? Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy what made the drastic change I wonder? Smile Smile Smile

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302RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 16 Empty Re: RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:28 pm

stockchaser


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@dayandacool wrote:
@geesura wrote:Stock is not the company RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 16 1f603 .


RAL,RWSL,RIL,BIL,LDEV,EMER,HVA are trading stocks .

What is the definition of a trading stock?? is there anything like that at all?   Very Happy

It's all up to the individual. If you are in the stock market to earn money and increase ur wealth, all that you do is trading unless you have a controlling stake in a company and you want to get in to the management and change it's course. I'm pretty sure non of us have such liberties. So yes, All what you do here is trading.

I do not hold RWSL. Wanted to buy below 5 rs but failed. Good luck to those who bought it. With time and proven results, It could reach double digits IMO

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

PS, going by ur list you mentioned above, EXPO was a trading stock 6 months back and now it's not??? Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy what made the drastic change I wonder? Smile Smile Smile
well said bro

303RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 16 Empty Re: RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:17 am

geesura


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@dayandacool wrote:
@vijay singh wrote:listen, I don't like downgrade any worth of share. clearly, I highlighted via my earlier comment problem of capacity. RWSL is like a gold mining. unfortunately, they haven't capacity level. govt. gave 1 year period, show the performance. RWSL did not go with new expand project. I don't care NAV of RWSL. because of , this normally paid dividend. unfair RWSL market price compare with it's NAV. if you take NAV as benchmark , most of share overvalued. ex. CTC,LLUB,TJL,VLL,CTHR,ALUM etc.

LOLC Group never declare any dividend, therefore, maintain high NAV. BUT not worth shareholder. bcoze nothing give to shareholders. important thing is,

capacity level
demand of market
potentially performance

RWSL, capacity level problem unable to fulfill market demand and less revenue income leads to potential performance.

I , optimistic with RWSL current market price 7 level. but, no possibility to further price improvement due to limited capacity level.

I felt that your assessment is heavily based on a bad assumption.

You assume that the import restriction will remain forever. That's why I said they could play the advantage game until the import ban is in place. like you rightly pointed out, Government has given them the 1 year period, probably hinting the import ban will only remain in place for 1 year. I don't see RWSL making a worthy of an effort to increase their production capabilities to capture the market share and get the advantage of the Import ban.

So the bottom line is, the moment they lift the import ban, That will kill the share as there are no alternatives and diversification. Very Happy Very Happy
Have they increased their production capabilities to capture the market share?

Investor's attitude towards stock changes when the company performs well.EXPO showed the results and their ability to grow. now it's a share to invest. where the stock price is backed by the current earnings +future earning potential. But those who identify the potential
 of the share earlier will be the real winners I think @dayanadacool and @stockchaser  might have identified such potential in RWSL 

GL RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 16 1f60e

vijay singh


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@stockchaser wrote:
@Rational Investor wrote:
@stockchaser wrote:Why are you so cross with RWSL .. Did u miss the opportunity Very Happy


RWSL is well poised for a great run which may surpass the previous high Wink
yes from today's trading it's obvious that on Monday will even have a chance to reach double-digit

@stockchaser,
now, you told, Monday RWSL will reach double digits. can you elaborate how can achieve?
I remembered earlier, few of them spreading same drama with unreastict TPS.
if someone wants to see their dirty game go and check October 2020 RWSL price chart. within 1 week price went up Rs.11.30, and came down Rs.5.30. within 2 weeks all game over. so many people was suffering HUGE LOSSES. I don't like to cheat people commenting unclear background. I earlier also told, RWSL not worth more than Rs.7. if someone play game , be careful again & again burn your hand, not others.
extremely sorry person who hold RWSL. this time also, everyone realize what I said. here we cant explain every things. choice in your hands.

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305RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 16 Empty Re: RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:41 am

dayandacool


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@geesura wrote:
@dayandacool wrote:
@vijay singh wrote:listen, I don't like downgrade any worth of share. clearly, I highlighted via my earlier comment problem of capacity. RWSL is like a gold mining. unfortunately, they haven't capacity level. govt. gave 1 year period, show the performance. RWSL did not go with new expand project. I don't care NAV of RWSL. because of , this normally paid dividend. unfair RWSL market price compare with it's NAV. if you take NAV as benchmark , most of share overvalued. ex. CTC,LLUB,TJL,VLL,CTHR,ALUM etc.

LOLC Group never declare any dividend, therefore, maintain high NAV. BUT not worth shareholder. bcoze nothing give to shareholders. important thing is,

capacity level
demand of market
potentially performance

RWSL, capacity level problem unable to fulfill market demand and less revenue income leads to potential performance.

I , optimistic with RWSL current market price 7 level. but, no possibility to further price improvement due to limited capacity level.

I felt that your assessment is heavily based on a bad assumption.

You assume that the import restriction will remain forever. That's why I said they could play the advantage game until the import ban is in place. like you rightly pointed out, Government has given them the 1 year period, probably hinting the import ban will only remain in place for 1 year. I don't see RWSL making a worthy of an effort to increase their production capabilities to capture the market share and get the advantage of the Import ban.

So the bottom line is, the moment they lift the import ban, That will kill the share as there are no alternatives and diversification. Very Happy Very Happy
Have they increased their production capabilities to capture the market share?

Investor's attitude towards stock changes when the company performs well.EXPO showed the results and their ability to grow. now it's a share to invest. where the stock price is backed by the current earnings +future earning potential. But those who identify the potential
 of the share earlier will be the real winners I think @dayanadacool and @stockchaser  might have identified such potential in RWSL 

GL RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 16 1f60e

@geesura
If you have a glance at last quarterly results of RWSL, you will see a difference in their earnings pattern. Nobody is expecting RWSL to get to 50 Rs like expo did. But a double digit stock price based on earnings is very much a possibility.
I too was of the opinion that no diversification could kill the share. I purely go by the earning capabilities of a company.

They have diversified their production. They have set their eyes on flake salt which has a demand internationally. 

Having said that, Nobody expected EXPO to get to 50 either. but it did. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

http://www.ft.lk/business/Raigam-Wayamba-Salterns-A-tale-of-consistent-success/34-709996

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306RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 16 Empty Re: RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:01 am

stockchaser


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@dayandacool wrote:
@geesura wrote:
@dayandacool wrote:
@vijay singh wrote:listen, I don't like downgrade any worth of share. clearly, I highlighted via my earlier comment problem of capacity. RWSL is like a gold mining. unfortunately, they haven't capacity level. govt. gave 1 year period, show the performance. RWSL did not go with new expand project. I don't care NAV of RWSL. because of , this normally paid dividend. unfair RWSL market price compare with it's NAV. if you take NAV as benchmark , most of share overvalued. ex. CTC,LLUB,TJL,VLL,CTHR,ALUM etc.

LOLC Group never declare any dividend, therefore, maintain high NAV. BUT not worth shareholder. bcoze nothing give to shareholders. important thing is,

capacity level
demand of market
potentially performance

RWSL, capacity level problem unable to fulfill market demand and less revenue income leads to potential performance.

I , optimistic with RWSL current market price 7 level. but, no possibility to further price improvement due to limited capacity level.

I felt that your assessment is heavily based on a bad assumption.

You assume that the import restriction will remain forever. That's why I said they could play the advantage game until the import ban is in place. like you rightly pointed out, Government has given them the 1 year period, probably hinting the import ban will only remain in place for 1 year. I don't see RWSL making a worthy of an effort to increase their production capabilities to capture the market share and get the advantage of the Import ban.

So the bottom line is, the moment they lift the import ban, That will kill the share as there are no alternatives and diversification. Very Happy Very Happy
Have they increased their production capabilities to capture the market share?

Investor's attitude towards stock changes when the company performs well.EXPO showed the results and their ability to grow. now it's a share to invest. where the stock price is backed by the current earnings +future earning potential. But those who identify the potential
 of the share earlier will be the real winners I think @dayanadacool and @stockchaser  might have identified such potential in RWSL 

GL RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 16 1f60e

@geesura
If you have a glance at last quarterly results of RWSL, you will see a difference in their earnings pattern. Nobody is expecting RWSL to get to 50 Rs like expo did. But a double digit stock price based on earnings is very much a possibility.
I too was of the opinion that no diversification could kill the share. I purely go by the earning capabilities of a company.

They have diversified their production. They have set their eyes on flake salt which has a demand internationally. 

Having said that, Nobody expected EXPO to get to 50 either. but it did. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

http://www.ft.lk/business/Raigam-Wayamba-Salterns-A-tale-of-consistent-success/34-709996
I strongly believe Daynadacool has given the right explanation this share deserve ...

SL-INVESTOR

SL-INVESTOR
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Yes.. Probably Trap😷. Earlier burned hard money not only me but also others. Previous, all one disappeared when price came down same level. I feel , this time also play same dirty game💯.
If someone say NO, please tell me within one week Why RWSL prices came down from Rs. 12 to Rs.5. That's over the game within 2 weeks.

dayandacool

dayandacool
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@SL-INVESTOR wrote:Yes.. Probably Trap😷. Earlier burned hard money not only me but also others.  Previous, all one disappeared when price came down same level. I feel , this time also play same dirty game💯.
If someone say NO, please tell me within one week Why RWSL prices came down from Rs. 12 to Rs.5. That's over the game within 2 weeks.

It's the sentiment. I am in no way believe it should advance to 2 digits within a day, a week or even a month. With the results they are poised to post and which they posted in last quarter, they have a very good possibility to advance in to 2 digits.

It's sad that some people go by the trend and buy blindly. Last year October, RWSL had nothing special unless some people knew about the drastic policy changes (for prolong import restrictions for local produce) proposed by the government which was to come through the budget proposals in November.

If someone bought this above 10 rs earlier, I would call it a mistake as I simply can't justify such buying. If a person buys now or even bought this earlier below 5.5 rs, I can see the reasons why as I am expecting this to get to that 2 digits. I Can only say about the possibilities. Nobody can say exactly when Very Happy Very Happy

There are people who bought DIPD at 74 rs. Nobody calls it a "trap" when DIPD started advancing to reach another high again. Very Happy Very Happy  Lets not even talk about BIL Very Happy Very Happy

stockchaser


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@dayandacool wrote:
@SL-INVESTOR wrote:Yes.. Probably Trap😷. Earlier burned hard money not only me but also others.  Previous, all one disappeared when price came down same level. I feel , this time also play same dirty game💯.
If someone say NO, please tell me within one week Why RWSL prices came down from Rs. 12 to Rs.5. That's over the game within 2 weeks.

It's the sentiment. I am in no way believe it should advance to 2 digits within a day, a week or even a month. With the results they are poised to post and which they posted in last quarter, they have a very good possibility to advance in to 2 digits.

It's sad that some people go by the trend and buy blindly. Last year October, RWSL had nothing special unless some people knew about the drastic policy changes (for prolong import restrictions for local produce) proposed by the government which was to come through the budget proposals in November.

If someone bought this above 10 rs earlier, I would call it a mistake as I simply can't justify such buying. If a person buys now or even bought this earlier below 5.5 rs, I can see the reasons why as I am expecting this to get to that 2 digits. I Can only say about the possibilities. Nobody can say exactly when Very Happy Very Happy

There are people who bought DIPD at 74 rs. Nobody calls it a "trap" when DIPD started advancing to reach another high again. Very Happy Very Happy  Lets not even talk about BIL Very Happy Very Happy
can nowadays technical analysis or other "so-called" experts can predict the market? it's just a trend and make money when there is a tide. Nature of the market is such

RJ1010


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
What happens to RWSL and other penny stocks in Oct was a penny rally which lasted less than a week. That’s an exceptional market situation.
RWSL should ideally be a growing company. But as far as I have heard management is not so great and capacity improvement has not made progress. Based on those fundamentals I don’t think RWSL share price should go up. If anyone has any update about capacity expansion plans and when they can improve productivity please comment. We might see details in the upcoming financials also.

Expo, DIPD scenarios are completely different. These are progressive companies which took the baton during the covid period and ran with it to improve their business. They are still improving with new tie ups and capacity expansions and innovations. Fully justifying the trust investors place in holding these shares.

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geesura

geesura
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@RJ1010 wrote:What happens to RWSL and other penny stocks in Oct was a penny rally which lasted less than a week. That’s an exceptional market situation.
RWSL should ideally be a growing company. But as far as I have heard management is not so great and capacity improvement has not made progress. Based on those fundamentals I don’t think RWSL share price should go up. If anyone has any update about capacity expansion plans and when they can improve productivity please comment. We might see details in the upcoming financials also.

Expo, DIPD scenarios are completely different. These are progressive companies which took the baton during the covid period and ran with it to improve their business. They are still improving with new tie ups and capacity expansions and innovations. Fully justifying the trust investors place in holding these shares.
Exactly!!

312RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 16 Empty Re: RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:19 pm

dayandacool

dayandacool
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@RJ1010 wrote:What happens to RWSL and other penny stocks in Oct was a penny rally which lasted less than a week. That’s an exceptional market situation.
RWSL should ideally be a growing company. But as far as I have heard management is not so great and capacity improvement has not made progress. Based on those fundamentals I don’t think RWSL share price should go up. If anyone has any update about capacity expansion plans and when they can improve productivity please comment. We might see details in the upcoming financials also.

Expo, DIPD scenarios are completely different. These are progressive companies which took the baton during the covid period and ran with it to improve their business. They are still improving with new tie ups and capacity expansions and innovations. Fully justifying the trust investors place in holding these shares.

I can point out one such improvement with RWSL as they are in to manufacturing of flake salt, which wasn't the case earlier. Flake salt has a huge demand in places like Australia and Japan which are their main export markets. Smile 

But I agree with RJ that it is not an overnight process. It's a growing company and they have the capability to reach 2 digits gradually. As i said earlier, Nobody is expecting RWSL to be the next Expo.

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sureshot

sureshot
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
inside information says RWSL has produced a marvelous quarter results 31.03.2021
This share can again go above 10/= easily.

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314RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 16 Empty Re: RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:23 pm

stockchaser


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@sureshot wrote:inside information says RWSL has produced a marvelous quarter results 31.03.2021
This share can again go above 10/= easily.
Yes sure , I don't understand why people are so cynical about this share

315RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 16 Empty Re: RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:18 pm

dayandacool

dayandacool
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
It's a brave call to say u have inside information. You can get in to trouble by declaring it openly.  RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 16 1f606  RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 16 1f606 . But yes, It has the potential to generate good improved results and let it's course be decided on the merits of it's earnings / results rather than the speculation. Smile Smile

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Rational Investor

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@stockchaser wrote:
@sureshot wrote:inside information says RWSL has produced a marvelous quarter results 31.03.2021
This share can again go above 10/= easily.
Yes sure , I don't understand why people are so cynical about this share
Have a look how they well managed their NAV & Cash position guys last few quarters.
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RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 16 Ael10
Access Engineering has bought half million of RWSL as per the top 20 list.

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Strong Buy as per daily chart.
RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 16 Rwsl_t11

Volume has picked up nicely after hefty collection almost last 03-04 month. 
RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 16 Rwsl_v10

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not too late to collect game on Very Happy

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@stockchaser wrote:not too late to collect game on Very Happy
7-7.50 very attractive price to collect.. This should touch atleast 9/-

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@dilshangac wrote:
@stockchaser wrote:not too late to collect game on Very Happy
7-7.50 very attractive price to collect.. This should touch atleast 9/-
that even can be today

Mr. X

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Last time we had Directors selling.. after that price came down drastically.. I collected some shares today at 6.8. lets see what will happen this time.. during last time run, i incurred 12% loss.

stockchaser


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@Mr. X wrote:Last time we had Directors selling.. after that price came down drastically.. I collected some shares today at 6.8. lets see what will happen this time.. during last time run, i incurred 12% loss.
As far as I understand director selling will not make any huge impact on price appreciation, does it?

what is the exit price for this , any thoughts please

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any game can be expected today ?

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Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
May be, RWSL game oveR.

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