UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000)

Jana · 51 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Fri May 15, 2015 6:06 pm

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I think ALUF can go down because they made loss
may be it can come under 30/= level again

better to invest other share if it is in short term plan..
if it is long term plan then you can buy under 30/=

last few days before I advised to keep eye on this stock because all Aluminium stocks start to run
even I bought this @ 31/= but sold @ 33.90

at least you can buy some BLI under 45/= and keep just one or two month then you can have profit when the SFL move

Teller · 52 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Fri May 15, 2015 8:10 pm

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You can collect this share around 25/-, do not be hurry to buy. First study the market and understand how to deal with it. Good luck

Arena · 53 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Fri May 15, 2015 8:18 pm

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Alufab Results out.

Quarter Revenue up by 100%
EPS Quarter 1.02
First ever profit recorded 12m +

This is the turning point i was looking for. In a rational market you want see this share below 35 again.

Just look at DP's other companies how they grow revenue quarter by quarter.

ALUFAB will pass PARQ in future not immediately.

mdcpk1975 · 54 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Fri May 15, 2015 8:50 pm

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I am just wondering which alufab share jana and teller talking about..has it made a loss.. i cant c it in their report...is there another aluf share in the market

fireshelter · 55 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Fri May 15, 2015 9:41 pm

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Quarter EPS They are taking ALUF Having good future Now collecting we can earn 100% Profit mid term

https://www.cse.lk/cmt/upload_report_file/689_1431689156835.pdf

shadow walker · 56 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Fri May 15, 2015 9:44 pm

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now we have to select the best option... PARQ or ALUF

fireshelter · 57 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Fri May 15, 2015 9:55 pm

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Both are Better But ALUF have small quantity in the market there for past Run expect Short term 100% Gain

Maharaja · 58 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Fri May 15, 2015 10:31 pm

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Thankyou jana , teller, arena, mdcpk1975, Fireshelter, shadow walker.
I am confused jana and teller becoz I chked th interim report and it shows a profit of 12.3 million like others said. !!!!!!!

Maharaja · 59 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Fri May 15, 2015 10:32 pm

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Thankyou jana , teller, arena, mdcpk1975, Fireshelter, shadow walker.
I am confused jana and teller becoz I chked th interim report and it shows a profit of 12.3 million like others said. !!!!!!!

lakmal87 · 60 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Fri May 15, 2015 10:36 pm

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But ALUF financial report, distribution expense have big revesal. i don't know? Any one know it?

Arena · 61 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Fri May 15, 2015 11:45 pm

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lakmal............... In Any company you need to have a good distribution net work to develop the market. They invest in that so we may see high cost in Distribution, Marketing sales as well as in administration since you need to recruit good people and may be also good systems to run the operations.

As I said in a old post ALUFAB will be the next value gem in the market which will pass 50, 75 , 100 and 150 land marks in future followed by great results. We just saw the turn around Quarter statement with healthy profits so price will adjust for future profits as soon as big shots collect their ownership as what happens with VFIN right now. Just invest in this company and wait for three years you will get more than 400% gain.

Do not play with Market waves as a ordinary Investor who make their Brokers rich. Select the correct company and wait. We do not see these kind of shares all the time so forget about others and grab the opportunities quickly. There will be a time this share also overvalued so do not wait till it passes 50 to buy. With this results i will buy this share at any price below 45 if you can wait for 1 year. I have ALUFAB bought at 29 and will buy few more if wave comes to my side.

One more Plus point is company has more than 134m in cash This is a huge amount for a small company like ALUFAB. So DP do not want to go for a Right issue for its expansion and he will do wonders with this money. Cash per share is around Rs. 11.

Teller · 62 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 3:08 am

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Dear mdcpk, actually ALUF made 0.14 cents only for whole financial year. Last quarter unaditied results shows 1 plus eps and overall set off with other quaters losses average to 0.14 cents. Suddenly increasement of last quarter sales then all 3 quarter losses reversed. We have to find out the reason for sudden increasement of turnover and want to make sure this trend will continue or not. So far i dont see obviousr,reason for increasement. Want to wait for next quarters to see how this trend behaves.

Arena · 63 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 10:57 am

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Dear Teller,

The reasons for ALUFAB results are as follows.

1) New Helyy Managemnt.

2) Vision of Dammika Perera.

3) Recent change of Directors as disclosed under announcement. This is usual for Any Dammika Pereras Company where he get the right talent for all his companies.

These profits are operations profits so consistency is assured. No point of Compare ring there is no growing company in par with Alufab for next 6 quarters. We will see continuous Growth in top line during months to come. See Vfin, LFIN, RCL, and all other companies belongs to DP. There is a 10 Year summary attached to each Annual Report.

EPS · 64 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 1:41 pm

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Quarter EPS 1.02 (ANNUALIZE 4.04) X 10 PER = Rs.40/- or 45/- is good at this stsge.
Good luck for ALUF investors.....

geshan.weerakkody · 65 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 2:03 pm

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EPS wrote:Quarter EPS 1.02 (ANNUALIZE 4.04) X 10 PER = Rs.40/- or 45/- is good at this stsge.
Good luck for ALUF investors.....

We know that all quarters do not make similar profits for PARQ.

March quarter is much much higher

ALUF - maybe similar

EPS · 66 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 2:52 pm

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not agreed.
this is start of turning.
Next financual year profit will defa higher figure than 4.04.
above is my minimum valuation.
Sure, Alufab will be higher return company in next year.

k9 · 67 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 2:58 pm

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ALUF shows 1.02 EPS...but ALUF has to wait sometime to Record Profits like PARQ.
Currently ALUF recorded 0.14 EPS for the 2014/15 yr.Trading at 35 levels.
Turnover wise ALUF has not recorded increasement ,52 mn for both Q3 and Q4 2014/15.
Reason is Aluf is supplying their products to ALUMAX,thats y Mr. Dhammika P has taken over ALUF for the benifit of ALUM.
In Q3 GP is 32.9 mn and Q4 GP has come down to 12 mn.We have consider it.

ALUF price will be gone up becuase of the favourable market situation.For trading purposes ALUF is ok.

But Investment purpose mid and long PARQ is the best.

ALUF price will be gone up becuase of the favourable market situation.For trading purposes ALUF is ok.
But Investment purpose mid and long PARQ is the best.
Remember PARQ risk is very very low as PARQ s Profits consists with both TILE and Aluminum.

Highest future earnings can be expected from PARQ.

EPS · 68 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 3:19 pm

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Yes...
Important point is PARQ is having Aluminimum and Tile related Profits. Tile grouts are under selling RCL brand now.

Maharaja · 69 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 3:34 pm

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Great to hear the good news ,
BUT guys tell me what price to buy on monday !!!!
I have only 100,000 portfolio
34.30 or similar price it had closed yesterday,
guys whats best price to enter ???

Maharaja · 70 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 3:35 pm

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Great to hear the good news ,
BUT guys tell me what price to buy on monday !!!!
I have only 100,000 portfolio
34.30 or similar price it had closed yesterday,
guys whats best price to enter ???

Maharaja · 71 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 3:36 pm

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And net assets per share comes more than rs.26 if my calculation is correct.
315 million/ 12 million
tel me if am wrong

geshan.weerakkody · 72 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 3:49 pm

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k9 wrote:ALUF shows 1.02 EPS...but ALUF has to wait sometime to Record Profits like PARQ.
Currently ALUF recorded 0.14 EPS for the 2014/15 yr.Trading at 35 levels.
Turnover wise ALUF has not recorded increasement ,52 mn for both Q3 and Q4 2014/15.
Reason is Aluf is supplying their products to ALUMAX,thats y Mr. Dhammika P has taken over ALUF for the benifit of ALUM.
In Q3 GP is 32.9 mn and Q4 GP has come down to 12 mn.We have consider it.

ALUF price will be gone up becuase of the favourable market situation.For trading purposes ALUF is ok.

But Investment purpose mid and long PARQ is the best.

ALUF price will be gone up becuase of the favourable market situation.For trading purposes ALUF is ok.
But Investment purpose mid and long PARQ is the best.
Remember PARQ risk is very very low as PARQ s Profits consists with both TILE and Aluminum.

Highest future earnings can be expected from PARQ.

Well said . Rs 75 can be expected soon if ASI is green

k9 · 73 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 4:34 pm

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PARQ is backed by whole Tile sector and the Swisstek Aluminium Ltd.
PARQ tile related products selling through the RCL and Lanka tile outlets.PARQ tile related products are the best products in the market now and captured over 80 % of the overall market.

ALUF is backed by only ALUM..

Mr Arena said that,

"Any company you need to have a good distribution net work to develop the market. They invest in that so we may see high cost in Distribution, Marketing sales as well as in administration since you need to recruit good people and may be also good systems to run the operations. "

We can not agree to that statement as ALUF cutting down their Selling and Distribution Cost by sending Directly to ALUM without having distributors.
Currently ALUF is selling their products to ALUM. they imported and directly sending to ALUM.So no distribution costs relating to the product distribution.
Because of that,
Q3 ALUF selling and distribution cost is 13 mn.But Q4 2.6 mn + figure.

If ALUM expanding their buying from ALUF ,ALUF Turnover will be gone up.That depends on the ALUMs orders.
But the expansion of ALUFs Turnover is low.But ALUF will manage their Expenses by reducing costs to run the company in Profit path.

PARQ has clear Expansion ways than ALUF and now PARQ has the Monopoly of Tile related products.

Technically when PARQ hits 100+++ ALUF can also be gone up.

So analyze the reports carefully and do your own study....

Dont burn your fingers....
Invest wisely as we all invest our hard earning money or borrowed money with an interest.

Happy Trading...........

Maharaja · 74 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 5:39 pm

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guys can u help me with my net asset per share cal.
Rs.26+ ?????
If so amazing rytt !!!

Jana · 75 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 11:17 pm

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mdcpk1975 wrote:I am just wondering which alufab share jana and teller talking about..has it made a loss.. i cant c it in their report...is there another aluf share in the market

I am bit confuse because of they use the word "Loss per share" instead of "Earning per Share"
but ok ..calculation wise they show profit ..ALUF can go up

UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 3 Aluf10

UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 3 Aluf10

k9 · 76 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 11:25 pm

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U r right jana.its a big mistake.Seems company didnt recheck the reports b4 published.
Have to double check the figures also Carefully.
Dont know this report is audited or not.Seems not audited.
Have to check the totals of all Q reports and should check whether tally to the yearlly figure.

Maharaja · 77 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 11:28 pm

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Dear jana,
advise on net assets per share pls

Jana · 78 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 11:31 pm

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k9 wrote:U r right jana.its a big mistake.Seems company didnt recheck the reports b4 published.
Have to double check the figures also Carefully.
Dont know this report is audited or not.Seems not audited.
Have to check the totals of all Q reports and should check whether tally to the yearlly figure.

yes k9 , they are rushing to published reports within the time limit otherwise they need to pay some penalty and its goes to default board as well.

So we can't trust them they did proper audit or not .. thats the reason they use the word unaudited...

any how this reports are right then ALUF can move to upward

Pac-man · 79 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 11:39 pm

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Yes maharaja... 315 mn/ 12 mn will be 26+ value.
i am not a pro, the seniors will be able to help

Jana · 80 Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 11:59 pm

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I think
Actually NAV = total equity /No of shares

31st mar 2015 NAV= 22.22

but

31st Mar 2014 NAV is 22.92 = 276,437,192/12,058,200

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