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251BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty BIL AND LOLC GAME PLAN Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:48 pm

kalu351


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

We know LOLC Group and connected parties play dirt and suck blood from small investors

With some brokers and some newspapers creating hype about the Cambodian Deal Profits - share price went up above 165 and the truth came out with the report as expected NAV not risen by LKR 90 or near

As i said this is sort of manipulation using the same deal news to PUMP AND DUMP many times

This is they and connected trusted dirtbrokers say they can do that as long as stock market s are a gamble type bullshit they say to get the benefit and to justify the dirty game any trader is allowed to do those

So yet again connected HNWI by taking cambodian deal news again and publishing same type of news articles boosting about bloody LOLC - DIRTY GROUP which is never pay and share the profit & always suck poor and retail investors hard earn money by this official kind of manipulation .


They call it CAPITOL GAINS - BLOODY BULLSHIT

There are some paid members here in this group also who is doing shopping for the connected set they promoted LOLC to touch 185 and some said foolish buy back thing and LOLC may touch 300

Now when they had to put the news in the company reports the show was not that great and NAV not rose as expected and argued by many by LKR 80-90 but only around 32 LKR so the expectations and prices went down and all retail people who went behind big money blindly - got burned their asses again and again ..

Never hold LOLC for long time - unless you have billions free earn money like NP does

Now the Drama 2 -BIL Rights DRAMA

Few month ago BIL was trading at 1-60 /1-70 After the Right issue of 1-40 -And all of a sudden the Trust buddy brokers spread ( not all advisors some of them in to this dirty game God bless such brokers families ) a news about a deal @ 7 and we all went behind the Blood share BIL - So the big guys who collected massive number of shares through the right issue @ 1-40 Dump their bigggggggg lots at 3-4 even 5 - share was trading at 5-80 also as they spread that MR Ishara is going to sell a stake at 7 ( NAV WAS ALSO 7 Around ) so we all buy that story - buggers the dirty management of BIL and mother holding company then declared the next game the Rights 2020 at massive 2 for 1 offer at LK R2 .

The next game was on - now big guns had big lots had to tke the rights as we small ones and mid ones got their money stuck as we boght BIL at 3-4 -5 Like dat

So we have had no money to subscribe to rights the owners and connected trusted ones bought the rights at LKR 2

Now again they will start the Dracula game from next week

They the owners and connected people have subscribed to huge numbers @ 2

Please be aware the below seens

they may sell off some and will bring down the price below 2 also to 1-80 levels may be - then they will collect and then after huge collection done they will spread again the 10-15% stake for sale at 5-6 Rupees this time again and may be their will be a deal in real
so they have massive numbers from both right issues plus they forced and dropped the price ( I think they may start that next week and may go on for few days )

Then they will collect a lot at low below 2 even and slowly they they will again spread the news about the deal 10% stake sell by LOLC Mother company of BIL
Again we all will buy buy buy and take the share price UP allowing those connected ones to sell all collected shares at 3-4 levels

After may be a deal will go through and share holders will get nothing The group even if they earn trillions profit never share it with us

so again some retail community members will suffer - The best thing is to buy low and sell with a 1 rupee or 60-70 cents per share profit and don't fall in love with LOLC - BIL -BRWN


Best is to buy and sell soon apply stop loss also \\

Don't get caught to their master game

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252BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:55 am

KavinduTM


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Bruh use a smaller font.

253BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:20 am

KavinduTM


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Usually i don't trade BIL. But i collected BIL yesterday @2.40 as it was more likely to a price increase today (28th August).

This is not a recommendation btw.



Last edited by KavinduTM on Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:21 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : '_')

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254BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:47 am

Captain


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

why you are collecting now, when there is huge no. of shares to listed in the market in near future. 

this should be come down definiately

255BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:01 pm

Love Boy


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

kalu351 wrote:We know LOLC Group and connected parties play dirt and suck blood from small investors

With some brokers and some newspapers creating hype about the Cambodian Deal Profits - share price went up above 165 and the truth came out with the report as expected NAV not risen by LKR 90 or near

As i said this is sort of manipulation using the same deal news to PUMP AND DUMP many times

This is they and connected trusted dirtbrokers say they can do that as long as stock market s are a gamble type bullshit they say to get the benefit and to justify the dirty game any trader is allowed to do those

So yet again connected HNWI by taking cambodian deal news again and publishing same type of news articles boosting about bloody LOLC - DIRTY GROUP which is never pay and share the profit & always suck poor and retail investors hard earn money by this official kind of manipulation .


They call it CAPITOL GAINS - BLOODY BULLSHIT

There are some paid members here in this group also who is doing shopping for the connected set they promoted LOLC to touch 185 and some said foolish buy back thing and LOLC may touch 300

Now when they had to put the news in the company reports the show was not that great and NAV not rose as expected and argued by many by LKR 80-90 but only around 32 LKR so the expectations and prices went down and all retail people who went behind big money blindly - got burned their asses again and again ..

Never hold LOLC for long time - unless you have billions free earn money like NP does

Now the Drama 2 -BIL Rights DRAMA

Few month ago BIL was trading at 1-60 /1-70 After the Right issue of 1-40 -And all of a sudden the Trust buddy brokers spread ( not all advisors some of them in to this dirty game God bless such brokers families ) a news about a deal @ 7 and we all went behind the Blood share BIL - So the big guys who collected massive number of shares through the right issue @ 1-40 Dump their bigggggggg lots at 3-4 even 5 - share was trading at 5-80 also as they spread that MR Ishara is going to sell a stake at 7 ( NAV WAS ALSO 7 Around ) so we all buy that story - buggers the dirty management of BIL and mother holding company then declared the next game the Rights 2020 at massive 2 for 1 offer at LK R2 .

The next game was on - now big guns had big lots had to tke the rights as we small ones and mid ones got their money stuck as we boght BIL at 3-4 -5 Like dat

So we have had no money to subscribe to rights the owners and connected trusted ones bought the rights at LKR 2

Now again they will start the Dracula game from next week

They the owners and connected people have subscribed to huge numbers @ 2

Please be aware the below seens

they may sell off some and will bring down the price below 2 also to 1-80 levels may be - then they will collect and then after huge collection done they will spread again the 10-15% stake for sale at 5-6 Rupees this time again and may be their will be a deal in real
so they have massive numbers from both right issues plus they forced and dropped the price ( I think they may start that next week and may go on for few days )

Then they will collect a lot at low below 2 even and slowly they they will again spread the news about the deal 10% stake sell by LOLC Mother company of BIL
Again we all will buy buy buy and take the share price UP allowing those connected ones to sell all collected shares at 3-4 levels

After may be a deal will go through and share holders will get nothing The group even if they earn trillions profit never share it with us

so again some retail community members will suffer - The best thing is to buy low and sell with a 1 rupee or 60-70 cents per share profit and don't fall in love with LOLC - BIL -BRWN


Best is to buy and sell soon apply stop loss also \\

Don't get caught to their master game
That depends on you knowledge. We are not losers of their games. We play strategically with them. Anyway, this group for risk-seekers not for neutrals. Bill makes milloners within short period also. If you know how to play,you can be milloiner within short term other vise you are a loser. Trust me.That is true story. Welcome to play casino with CSE.  Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Not investing

256BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:18 am

Love Boy


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Can we take bill price back to Rs.2.1/= please? because,panic sellers are waiting to sell it.

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257BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:20 pm

engineer


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Yes, this is a high risk/return not for the faint hearted Smile  I think this can even touch 1.9 and then bounce back :O

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258BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:04 pm

Beta1

Beta1
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

engineer wrote:Yes, this is a high risk/return not for the faint hearted Smile  I think this can even touch 1.9 and then bounce back :O
 no i dont think so. market will absorb all panic selling @ 2.20/2.30 level.

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259BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:30 pm

Love Boy


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

2.2 buyer seems to be fake one. So, be careful when you play casino.Anyway,Good job Bill. you are very very strong than I expected. cheers cheers cheers

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260BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:38 pm

Pradeep90


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

What will happen for lofc?

261BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:05 pm

KavinduTM

KavinduTM
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Captain wrote:why you are collecting now, when there is huge no. of shares to listed in the market in near future. 

this should be come down definiately

Ofc its likely to come down to its support of 2.1/= i bought @2.40 with a gut feeling. Also i didn't recommend it to others. btw i can average the price as i didn't grind much to bil. No harm for anyone. 

Cheers.

262BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:35 am

Love Boy


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Pradeep90 wrote:What will happen for lofc?

Welcome to play casino. Lofc will come Rs.3/= and after push it to Rs.4/= Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Otherwise, there is no gain. hiks

263BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:49 am

abey


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

today 2.30..-2.40 cheers cheers cheers

264BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:50 am

abey


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

3/=no longer santa santa santa

265BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:01 pm

Yoho


Stock Trader

BIL Theoretical Ex-Rights Price:

=

Market Value of shares prior to rights issue + Cash raised from rights issue
__________
Number of shares after rights issue


4.789Bn shares ×2.20 + 19.159 Bn raised from rights issue
_________
Total shares after rights issue 4.789Bn + 9.579Bn 

29.697Bn
_____
14.369Bn

BIL exright price = Rs. 2.06 per share

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266BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:51 pm

abey


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

BIL 2.30-2 .50 cheers cheers

267BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:22 pm

Equity Win


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

BIL NAV after Right Issue
                                                Group           Company
NAV as at 30.06.2020                  6.41                3.47
Right (2*2)                                 4.00                4.00
NAV after R. Issue                      10.41/3            7.47/3
                                                  3.47                2.49

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268BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty This is wrong Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:29 am

Kaushan


Stock Trader

Equity Win wrote:BIL NAV after Right Issue
                                                Group           Company
NAV as at 30.06.2020                  6.41                3.47
Right (2*2)                                 4.00                4.00
NAV after R. Issue                      10.41/3            7.47/3
                                                  3.47                2.49

269BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:00 am

Love Boy


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

I do not know,why do we calculate theoretical points of bill. This is game.No need of theories Basketball Basketball Basketball Basketball . I need to take the bill price at Rs.2 and bounce back. this is the correct way to absorb all panic sellers.

270BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:14 am

dayandacool

dayandacool
Moderator
Moderator

Love Boy wrote:I do not know,why do we calculate theoretical points of bill. This is game.No need of theories Basketball Basketball Basketball Basketball . I need to take the bill price at Rs.2 and bounce back. this is the correct way to absorb all panic sellers.

Show me a gambler who has ever actually won!!! Shocked

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271BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:37 am

Love Boy


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

dayandacool wrote:
Love Boy wrote:I do not know,why do we calculate theoretical points of bill. This is game.No need of theories Basketball Basketball Basketball Basketball . I need to take the bill price at Rs.2 and bounce back. this is the correct way to absorb all panic sellers.

Show me a gambler who has ever actually won!!! Shocked
I am gambling. Because, I know,Capital Market theories more than others. 

It depends on your utility curve. All risk seekers do not earn much on Cse. But the hidden fact is,Majority of risk seekers are playing with Bill,LOLC,LOFC...

I am the individual who is a gambler among them. As a result,I can earn more. This is cold utility theories. Price does not depends only on  the theoretical pricing. I think, You can understand the rest. Laughing Laughing

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272BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:47 pm

Love Boy


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Bill.N will come S&P SL 20 bounce bounce

273BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:17 pm

KavinduTM

KavinduTM
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Averaged by buying @2.30 too. So with a 8% profit within 3 days, i exited today. That's enough.
Btw i won't jump into BIL again in near future.

274BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:22 pm

abey


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

today 2.40  2.60 next run 3. santa santa santa

275BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:59 am

engineer


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

abey wrote:today 2.40  2.60 next run 3. santa santa santa

Hmm, I think this will resist at 2.8 within the next week

276BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:58 pm

abey


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

lot of collecting 2.50 bounce bounce bounce

277BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:19 pm

dayandacool

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Love Boy wrote:
dayandacool wrote:
Love Boy wrote:I do not know,why do we calculate theoretical points of bill. This is game.No need of theories Basketball Basketball Basketball Basketball . I need to take the bill price at Rs.2 and bounce back. this is the correct way to absorb all panic sellers.

Show me a gambler who has ever actually won!!! Shocked
I am gambling. Because, I know,Capital Market theories more than others. 

It depends on your utility curve. All risk seekers do not earn much on Cse. But the hidden fact is,Majority of risk seekers are playing with Bill,LOLC,LOFC...

I am the individual who is a gambler among them. As a result,I can earn more. This is cold utility theories. Price does not depends only on  the theoretical pricing. I think, You can understand the rest. Laughing Laughing

Winning once and twice by gambling is the norm, but you will be in trouble on the day where your losers are bigger than your winners. If you consider a time frame of 10 years, you will find a long term value investor far ahead of you just because you will find your self both winning and losing thus making brokers richer than a long term journey where value always win. 

You may say that you have stop losses and risk management theories ect, but you can't deny the fact that a risky trade always have 2 results..
Well..you are hot when you are hot and you are not when you are not Very Happy

Having said that I do have regard to traders who trade on the basis of technical analysis. It has a method to it and there is an accepted logic behind it. Gambling doesn't. If you find your self winning 70 % of the time, you are trading to a method and that's not gambling, it's trading. But if you buy a share just cos your gut feeling ask you to, well the end is closer to you than you really think it is.

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278BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: BROWNS INVESTMENTS PLC (BIL.N0000) Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:13 am

Love Boy


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

dayandacool wrote:
Love Boy wrote:
dayandacool wrote:
Love Boy wrote:I do not know,why do we calculate theoretical points of bill. This is game.No need of theories Basketball Basketball Basketball Basketball . I need to take the bill price at Rs.2 and bounce back. this is the correct way to absorb all panic sellers.

Show me a gambler who has ever actually won!!! Shocked
I am gambling. Because, I know,Capital Market theories more than others. 

It depends on your utility curve. All risk seekers do not earn much on Cse. But the hidden fact is,Majority of risk seekers are playing with Bill,LOLC,LOFC...

I am the individual who is a gambler among them. As a result,I can earn more. This is cold utility theories. Price does not depends only on  the theoretical pricing. I think, You can understand the rest. Laughing Laughing

Winning once and twice by gambling is the norm, but you will be in trouble on the day where your losers are bigger than your winners. If you consider a time frame of 10 years, you will find a long term value investor far ahead of you just because you will find your self both winning and losing thus making brokers richer than a long term journey where value always win. 

You may say that you have stop losses and risk management theories ect, but you can't deny the fact that a risky trade always have 2 results..
Well..you are hot when you are hot and you are not when you are not Very Happy

Having said that I do have regard to traders who trade on the basis of technical analysis. It has a method to it and there is an accepted logic behind it. Gambling doesn't. If you find your self winning 70 % of the time, you are trading to a method and that's not gambling, it's trading. But if you buy a share just cos your gut feeling ask you to, well the end is closer to you than you really think it is.
Good Explanation. Very Happy Very Happy (I have tried to explain this thing using word "Utility Curve". Happy to see you got the idea. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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Equity Win


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

as per buying pressure BIL will heat tomorrow.

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abey


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

next run BIL

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