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KPP


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
http://www.cse.lk/cmt/upload_cse_announcements/551415012556_.pdf

sampath.anuradha


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@KPP wrote:http://www.cse.lk/cmt/upload_cse_announcements/551415012556_.pdf

This will have a positive impact tomorrow.
dear friend tomorrow something happen,boz that announcement any body have any idea,pl share ur idea ?

KPP


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
I think this will go up tomorrow. Today and Friday the drop was mainly due to panic as the major shareholder sold the rights in the market. People were worried that the rights may have been purchased by a trader who will not subscribe and that could have made the right issue a disaster. I think now that they know the 8mn block will be subscribed for tomorrow we may see a boom. Anyway it's unlikly that ACME.N will come below 12.50 So the right can move up to at least 40 cents. But my gut feeling is there will be more than just 40 cents caz probably ACME.N will move past 13 with this news.

KPP


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
And unlike the AAF right issue which had 280 million rights ACME only has 25 million rights. And out of that 8 million will defiantly not be traded tomorrow. Its also unlikely that the no. 2 to 5 shareholders will dispose their rights. They hold 9 million rights. So max there will be around 8 million left in the market. And out of that 5.7 million traded today at 10 cents. So it wouldn't be that difficult to push this up tomorrow.

165ACME PRINTING & PACKAGING PLC (ACME.N0000) - Page 9 Empty ACME Run soon Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:39 am

fireshelter


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Can we expect another run towards Rs.11... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

fireshelter

fireshelter
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
alien alien alien

Yahapalanaya

Yahapalanaya
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@fireshelter wrote:Can we expect another run towards Rs.11... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Is there any reason or just speculation?

Teller

Teller
Moderator
Moderator
Another scrap.


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Teller said is said..

nimantha80


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Whatever I bought ACME and ill win from hit.colection started from 9 and still going on

soileconomy

soileconomy
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Financially it is not doing well.

Thinker

Thinker
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@Teller wrote:Another scrap.
100% agree  lol! lol! lol!

lossorgain

lossorgain
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
At least the topic should have been the question and not a comment stating it will run !!!

173ACME PRINTING & PACKAGING PLC (ACME.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Will ACME declare Bankruptcy??? Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:04 pm

hawklk


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Fundamentally their are in deep trouble.

Steady decline in EPS and NAPS for last five years.

Sustainable Growth rate is in minus (-21.7%). Need heavy borrowing or financing to do a turnaround or somebody should take over.

Major shareholder Clovis Company Limited

Senior Citizen

Senior Citizen
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@hawklk wrote:Fundamentally their are in deep trouble.

Steady decline in EPS and NAPS for last five years.

Sustainable Growth rate is in minus (-21.7%). Need heavy borrowing or financing to do a turnaround or somebody should take over.

Major shareholder Clovis Company Limited

Thre were frauds, accounts not accurately maintained, audit issues, quality issues etc. etc.

They have been struggling with these for some time. The business is good but sustainability is the issue. The bigger Issue are the employees. They drive the business. So useless fixing the exteriors. They need a solid team.

SO TAKEOVER, IS THE BEST!

VALUEPICK

VALUEPICK
Expert
Expert
If we can identify companies which are exposure to acquisitions (takeovers) there could be some great opportunities. Great investors will acquire some good businesses. Some will buy loss making entities and then they will make them profitable. If we can find some loss making companies which are going to make profits in the future then we can buy their stocks at unbelievable prices in a market like today.  
 
I believe current period as one of the best period to accumulate quality stocks (quality businesses) from the market. In bull market, short term volatility and market pauses create opportunities. I believe after current market pause there could be  break out to the next level and next phases.

Senior Citizen

Senior Citizen
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
See the financials for 31/03/2015. The losses are unbearable.

I thought this company will re-cooperate quickly after the drastic measure that were taken. No way.

This company is doomed and anyone having large quantities should sell ASAP.

The real situation is this:

85 employees were sent on VRS which cost 77 mio.
Trade debtors have increased by 9 mio.
Inventories increased by 42 mi,o.
They are selling the products at almost cost. 
Gross Profit less than 10%
Interest paid 129 mio.

I think the Morale and leadership is poor and they need a better team!

troy

troy
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Moderator
see the final quarter. Now the story is different.  will do a analysis on this and publish it shortly.

Senior Citizen

Senior Citizen
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@troy wrote:see the final quarter. Now the story is different.  will do a analysis on this and publish it shortly.

I don't think the three months figures are good enough.
The leaks are not fully plugged and the profits are bleeding due to the high borrowings of 934 million. 

Moreover, there is a greater risk of solvency.

The monthly reveune is 93 mio. Vs the trade debtors are 397 mio. That works out to 4.5 months credit sales. Which company can afford to give credit to that extent. 
This means that ACME is forced to stick to a clientale that would accept their (UN) quality products and get orders ONLY due to their bargain prices. 

How long can they do this. The debtors will will increase. I say that what is happening there is that there are market returns not booked and reduced from the sales and also rejected materials still lying with the customers and not accounted for.

Once those entries are done there will be greater write off of materials over 200 million in year 2015/2016. Already 42 million written off in 2014/15 and that is quite high for a small company with sale of just 1 billion.

So forum members , be aware and avoid this share. Also, big investors please take over this good business and we shall help you with the investments.

They have some BIG clients!



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nimantha80


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
last few weeks collection happened upto 10.Someone wants more and came with this thread.this will run again above 10.

hawklk


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
CLOVIS COMPANY LIMITED 

1. It the major shareholder of ACME
2. It is the major shareholder of LANKA ALUMINIUM INDUSTRIES PLC

The second high shareholder of LANKA ALUMINIUM INDUSTRIES PLC is MR. K. D. D. PERERA

My search for CLOVIS COMPANY LIMITED is turning up blank. Clues are it is a off shore trust fund or company. 

Anybody got any info on CLOVIS COMPANY LIMITED ?

ACME is actively trading despite these financial issues

nimantha80


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@hawklk wrote:CLOVIS COMPANY LIMITED 

1. It the major shareholder of ACME
2. It is the major shareholder of LANKA ALUMINIUM INDUSTRIES PLC

The second high shareholder of LANKA ALUMINIUM INDUSTRIES PLC is MR. K. D. D. PERERA

My search for CLOVIS COMPANY LIMITED is turning up blank. Clues are it is a off shore trust fund or company. 

Anybody got any info on CLOVIS COMPANY LIMITED ?

ACME is actively trading despite these financial issues
you started this and isnt it better to change the topic.10+ im selling

nimantha80


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@hawklk wrote:CLOVIS COMPANY LIMITED 

1. It the major shareholder of ACME
2. It is the major shareholder of LANKA ALUMINIUM INDUSTRIES PLC

The second high shareholder of LANKA ALUMINIUM INDUSTRIES PLC is MR. K. D. D. PERERA

My search for CLOVIS COMPANY LIMITED is turning up blank. Clues are it is a off shore trust fund or company. 

Anybody got any info on CLOVIS COMPANY LIMITED ?

ACME is actively trading despite these financial issues
you started this and isnt it better to change the topic.10+ im selling

hawklk


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@nimantha80 wrote:
@hawklk wrote:CLOVIS COMPANY LIMITED 

1. It the major shareholder of ACME
2. It is the major shareholder of LANKA ALUMINIUM INDUSTRIES PLC

The second high shareholder of LANKA ALUMINIUM INDUSTRIES PLC is MR. K. D. D. PERERA

My search for CLOVIS COMPANY LIMITED is turning up blank. Clues are it is a off shore trust fund or company. 

Anybody got any info on CLOVIS COMPANY LIMITED ?

ACME is actively trading despite these financial issues
you started this and isnt it better to change the topic.10+ im selling

Yes I started this topic to educate the members not because I have "Piles". I do not hold ACME to sell at 10+ or buy at -8 and I am not promoting ACME or demoting. This is just for information so that members are aware of it.

I do mot earn money by doing posting like this. Just the satisfaction that I was of some use to this forum.

So, "nimantha80" appreciate if you be more positive rather than being sarcastic

nimantha80


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
your topic title is not suitable If u r nutral

Yahapalanaya

Yahapalanaya
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Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
ACME is another loss making company pushed by some interested parties.

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