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PINS VS AAIC

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1PINS VS AAIC Empty PINS VS AAIC Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:55 pm

cseguide

cseguide
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

PINS Peoples Insurance company is relatively undervalued compare to it's pears. Here I try to compare AAIC (Softlogic LIFE ) with PINS. Let's see the price movement of these two shares.

PINS VS AAIC Pins_v10




up to November PINS was trading higher price than AAIC and from 30 Th November and on wards we saw AAIC price is increasing steadily due to market attention. But still PINS price is stagnating in the same level. Both counters in the same business and more or less with same fundamentals. (PINS EPS slightly above than AAIC )

Peoples insurance is a well managed Private company with government backing though Peoples's Bank. Also It pays around 10 % dividend (last time Rs 3.00 ) . Over the years it has increased its dividend per share with consistent growth.
Most of investors love to have PINS in their long term portfolio as a retirement fund because of consistent growth and increased dividend payment over the years with capital gain.


PINS VS AAIC Pins_v11

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2PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:25 pm

Biggy


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Dear CSE Guide , thank you for this write up . I have both shares in fairly large quantities .. earlier I had a much larger share of PINS but later reduced to balance out my portfolio . PINS is a General Insurance company & is a lovely counter , however they have a problem with revenue growth which has either remained flat or reduced slightly - maybe because General Insurance is refered to being at almost saturation point .. On the other hand AAIC is Life Insurance Company & Life Insurance they say has a massive untapped potential in the country + AAIC is highly aggressive and innovative in their marketing and innovative . The reasons which may be why the Share is rocketing up could be based on the rumor of a private placement being made on the share at RS 100/- & or the projected 2023 EPS of rupees 10/-

3PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Sat Jan 01, 2022 6:05 pm

Investnow


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic

itTtcseguide wrote:PINS Peoples Insurance company is relatively undervalued compare to it's pears. Here I try to compare AAIC (Softlogic LIFE ) with PINS. Let's see the price movement of these two shares.

PINS VS AAIC Pins_v10




up to November PINS was trading higher price than AAIC and from 30 Th November and on wards we saw AAIC price is increasing steadily due to market attention. But still PINS price is stagnating in the same level. Both counters in the same business and more or less with same fundamentals. (PINS EPS slightly above than AAIC )

Peoples insurance is a well managed Private company with government backing though Peoples's Bank. Also It pays around 10 % dividend (last time Rs 3.00 ) . Over the years it has increased its dividend per share with consistent growth.
Most of investors love to have PINS in their long term portfolio as a retirement fund because of consistent growth and increased dividend payment over the years with capital gain.


PINS VS AAIC Pins_v11
Thanks for the analysis . I also has some quantity bought long ago. I hope to collect some more.This time they may pay higher dividend. Heared they have better results this time

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4PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Sat Jan 01, 2022 8:56 pm

cseguide

cseguide
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

@ current price of 34.10 PINS is a two bagger for me. Smile
PINS VS AAIC Pins_310 PINS VS AAIC Pins410

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5PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Sun Jan 02, 2022 12:55 pm

ErangaDS

ErangaDS
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

cseguide wrote:PINS Peoples Insurance company is relatively undervalued compare to it's pears. Here I try to compare AAIC (Softlogic LIFE ) with PINS. Let's see the price movement of these two shares.

PINS VS AAIC Pins_v10




up to November PINS was trading higher price than AAIC and from 30 Th November and on wards we saw AAIC price is increasing steadily due to market attention. But still PINS price is stagnating in the same level. Both counters in the same business and more or less with same fundamentals. (PINS EPS slightly above than AAIC )

Peoples insurance is a well managed Private company with government backing though Peoples's Bank. Also It pays around 10 % dividend (last time Rs 3.00 ) . Over the years it has increased its dividend per share with consistent growth.
Most of investors love to have PINS in their long term portfolio as a retirement fund because of consistent growth and increased dividend payment over the years with capital gain.


PINS VS AAIC Pins_v11

 Better comparison would be against LOLC general insurance, since both are in the same segment (general insurance). Both are backed by two biggest finance companies in the country- LOLC & PLC

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6PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Sun Jan 02, 2022 1:11 pm

cseguide

cseguide
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

ErangaDS wrote:
cseguide wrote:PINS Peoples Insurance company is relatively undervalued compare to it's pears. Here I try to compare AAIC (Softlogic LIFE ) with PINS. Let's see the price movement of these two shares.

PINS VS AAIC Pins_v10




up to November PINS was trading higher price than AAIC and from 30 Th November and on wards we saw AAIC price is increasing steadily due to market attention. But still PINS price is stagnating in the same level. Both counters in the same business and more or less with same fundamentals. (PINS EPS slightly above than AAIC )

Peoples insurance is a well managed Private company with government backing though Peoples's Bank. Also It pays around 10 % dividend (last time Rs 3.00 ) . Over the years it has increased its dividend per share with consistent growth.
Most of investors love to have PINS in their long term portfolio as a retirement fund because of consistent growth and increased dividend payment over the years with capital gain.


PINS VS AAIC Pins_v11

 Better comparison would be against LOLC general insurance, since both are in the same segment (general insurance). Both are backed by two biggest finance companies in the country- LOLC & PLC
I can do that if we compare PINS with LOLC general insurance, sky is the limit for PINS.

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7PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Sun Jan 02, 2022 3:03 pm

Nandun


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

cseguide wrote:PINS Peoples Insurance company is relatively undervalued compare to it's pears. Here I try to compare AAIC (Softlogic LIFE ) with PINS. Let's see the price movement of these two shares.

PINS VS AAIC Pins_v10




up to November PINS was trading higher price than AAIC and from 30 Th November and on wards we saw AAIC price is increasing steadily due to market attention. But still PINS price is stagnating in the same level. Both counters in the same business and more or less with same fundamentals. (PINS EPS slightly above than AAIC )

Peoples insurance is a well managed Private company with government backing though Peoples's Bank. Also It pays around 10 % dividend (last time Rs 3.00 ) . Over the years it has increased its dividend per share with consistent growth.
Most of investors love to have PINS in their long term portfolio as a retirement fund because of consistent growth and increased dividend payment over the years with capital gain.


PINS VS AAIC Pins_v11

flower flower  Great... only thing in AAIC is increase of profit it around 160% up consider with previous year. PINS has a decrease. this may cause to huge uptrend of AAIC. But I keep PINS in my bag.

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8PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:59 pm

cseguide

cseguide
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Nandun wrote:
cseguide wrote:PINS Peoples Insurance company is relatively undervalued compare to it's pears. Here I try to compare AAIC (Softlogic LIFE ) with PINS. Let's see the price movement of these two shares.

PINS VS AAIC Pins_v10




up to November PINS was trading higher price than AAIC and from 30 Th November and on wards we saw AAIC price is increasing steadily due to market attention. But still PINS price is stagnating in the same level. Both counters in the same business and more or less with same fundamentals. (PINS EPS slightly above than AAIC )

Peoples insurance is a well managed Private company with government backing though Peoples's Bank. Also It pays around 10 % dividend (last time Rs 3.00 ) . Over the years it has increased its dividend per share with consistent growth.
Most of investors love to have PINS in their long term portfolio as a retirement fund because of consistent growth and increased dividend payment over the years with capital gain.


PINS VS AAIC Pins_v11

flower flower  Great... only thing in AAIC is increase of profit it around 160% up consider with previous year. PINS has a decrease. this may cause to huge uptrend of AAIC. But I keep PINS in my bag.
Here what we want to consider mostly is last 3 months quarter on quarter profit growth. Last quarter PINS VS AAIC Pins_311
It has been increased compare to 2020 .

9PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:02 pm

Nandun


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Then can we compare PINS with this PINS VS AAIC Soflog10

** compare the growth

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10PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:00 pm

Biggy


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Nandun wrote:Then can we compare PINS with this PINS VS AAIC Soflog10

** compare the growth
Life & General are very different . Life will hit the moon & General will hit the 3rd floor Smile

11PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:38 pm

cseguide

cseguide
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Can we compare any other share with this. The share growth should be consistent over the years and year on year they have increased their dividend as well.
PINS VS AAIC Pins10

12PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:51 pm

cseguide

cseguide
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Biggy wrote:
Nandun wrote:Then can we compare PINS with this PINS VS AAIC Soflog10

** compare the growth
Life & General are very different . Life will hit the moon & General will hit the 3rd floor Smile
That is not correct. In a very high inflation situation like today, the disposable income of people reduces since every person want to spend more on consumption. on the other hand investment in life insurance is not worth due to money value in future will reduce with high inflation instead people will go for other investments like invest on real property and stock market etc. On the other hand due to high value of vehicle and vehicle parts every person try to go for full insurance cover for their vehicles and properties.

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13PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:51 pm

Biggy


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Life Insurance mainly covers the risk of a family from getting into financial difficulty & ruin in the unfortunate sudden & unexpected demise of it's Bread Winner - the lump sum at the end is a secondary benefit .

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14PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Mon Jan 03, 2022 1:07 pm

cseguide

cseguide
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

STARTED TO REALIZE PINS VALUE.  PINS VS AAIC 1f600

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15PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:47 pm

Nandun


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

I got 30% from PINS @cseguide  what is your idea will it go further or jump to JINS will make better ? Very Happy

16PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:02 pm

K.R

K.R
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

https://island.lk/peoples-insurance-enters-medical-insurance-market-with-the-most-comprehensive-medical-insurance-cover-available-in-sri-lanka/

Are they coming to Life insurance market ?

17PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:24 pm

cseguide

cseguide
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Nandun wrote:I got 30% from PINS @cseguide  what is your idea will it go further or jump to JINS will make better ? Very Happy
PINS has more value. This is only the start of a long Journey.It deserves a higher valuation compare to its earnings and future potential  Very Happy However it is up  to you decide the entry and exit point.

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18PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:31 pm

cseguide

cseguide
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

K.R wrote:https://island.lk/peoples-insurance-enters-medical-insurance-market-with-the-most-comprehensive-medical-insurance-cover-available-in-sri-lanka/

Are they coming to Life insurance market ?
 earlier there was a restriction that general insurance and life insurance should not carried out by one institution. According to my knowledge this law was recently changed and now they can do both general and life insurance. Better somebody with insurance sector confirm this.

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19PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:36 pm

Anushka Perz


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic

kk

20PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Mon Jan 03, 2022 9:14 pm

ErangaDS

ErangaDS
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

As we witnesses today low liquidity nature of PINS will remain for sometime. We can’t expect a share split anytime sooner, further 93% is held by top 20 including ETF and two brothers of Mr Dammika perera ,can’t see them selling in the market either. This will be the opportunity for retailers and a nightmare for big boys. PINS VS AAIC 1e8be110

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21PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:44 pm

K.R

K.R
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

cseguide wrote:
K.R wrote:https://island.lk/peoples-insurance-enters-medical-insurance-market-with-the-most-comprehensive-medical-insurance-cover-available-in-sri-lanka/

Are they coming to Life insurance market ?
 earlier there was a restriction that general insurance and life insurance should not carried out by one institution. According to my knowledge this law was recently changed and now they can do both general and life insurance. Better somebody with insurance sector confirm this.

AAIC moved from 30's to 70s very short period of time, will there be a similar journey for PINS?
What will be the fair value of PINS?

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22PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:00 pm

Biggy


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

AAIC . . There's a rumour of a private place to be made when the price reaches 100/- + a JV for SHL with Adani India .. RUMOR ... + AAIC projected future EPS next 3 years is 6.6 , 8.0 & 10.0 according to the last Life Insurance Report . PINS price will adjust according to EPS .

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23PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:20 pm

cheetah


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Next move PINS and JINS

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24PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:35 pm

ErangaDS

ErangaDS
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

AAIC 11(PER)
JINS 13
COOP 15
LGIL. 20

-PINS-
9months EPS - 4.16 (last 4Q - 5.40)
PER 6.8

*PINS is trading at a deep discount to its peers, share price should adjusted to 9+ PER going forward.

“Low liquidity factor will decide the ultimate destination for PINS”


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25PINS VS AAIC Empty Re: PINS VS AAIC Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:23 pm

K.R

K.R
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

People's Insurance
PINS.N0000
Share Price 7 Day 1 Year
40.2 19.3% 46.2%


Investor sentiment improved over the past week

After last week's 19% share price gain to LK₨40.20, the stock trades at a trailing P/E ratio of 7.4x.

Average trailing P/E is 11x in the Insurance industry in Sri Lanka.

Total returns to shareholders of 161% over the past three years.

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