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26You have been shafted. - Page 2 Empty Re: You have been shafted. Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:06 pm

tubal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Thanks everyone for your good wishes. Really appreciate it. This forum used to be fun sometime back. Now it's dominated by people who can't tell the difference between 2.5 trillion and 4billion, well it looks like the 4 billion has been used up by today.

It's also interesting that two new forums have sprung up with in the course of this month

27You have been shafted. - Page 2 Empty Re: You have been shafted. Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:10 pm

mono


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

tubal wrote:Thanks everyone for your good wishes. Really appreciate it. This forum used to be fun sometime back. Now it's dominated by people who can't tell the difference between 2.5 trillion and 4billion, well it looks like the 4 billion has been used up by today.

It's also interesting that two new forums have sprung up with in the course of this month

2.5 trillion! what's the significance of that number?

28You have been shafted. - Page 2 Empty Re: You have been shafted. Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:19 pm

yoyo


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Thanks tubal, for your valuable comments in the forum. Keep it up...

29You have been shafted. - Page 2 Empty Re: You have been shafted. Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:26 pm

Antonym


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

mono wrote:
tubal wrote:Thanks everyone for your good wishes. Really appreciate it. This forum used to be fun sometime back. Now it's dominated by people who can't tell the difference between 2.5 trillion and 4billion, well it looks like the 4 billion has been used up by today.

It's also interesting that two new forums have sprung up with in the course of this month

2.5 trillion! what's the significance of that number?
@tubal: What makes this forum fun(ny) nowadays? People who can't tell the difference between 2.5 trillion and 4billion. Smile
@mono: Rs 2,494,192,680,960 to be precise = CSE Market capitalization at close of trading today.

30You have been shafted. - Page 2 Empty Re: You have been shafted. Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:08 pm

Kaush


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic

Tubal, good that you are back in action. It is always better to have different ideas in this forum and better to look at things in different angles. But we should not forget that we are dealing with high risk high return situation where we should be able to take a risk. But it should be a calculated risk that is agreed.
But I’m curious about your investment style because you always see the negative side and never came up with any positive comment even in a bullish market. Even I have made few warnings through my posts and same time I was flexible to ask from forum members things that I don’t know. And also I have made favourable comments for some fundamentally strong shares too. But in your case you never made any favourable comment for any share. Are you not at all investing in shares or you are scared to share your favourable comments with us thinking that if it is went wrong, that will not good for your status? Tubal, no offence intended, please share your thoughts.
Don’t forget we all dealing with high risk high return investments where there is always risk of losing our money.

31You have been shafted. - Page 2 Empty Re: You have been shafted. Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:35 pm

Academic


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

I see following two possible scenarios

  1. Once excess fund supply (2 billion) is exhausted, market may stagnate. However, note that not all brokers have excess funds. So some brokers have to force sell their client's PF. Thus market may go down slowly

  2. Brokers may give credit exceeding legitimate limit in the mid-month and force sell at the end of the month (of course after earning an interest) to show SEC they are under the limit. If this happens we can see month end downs and green at the beginning of the month.

P.S. I do not see a big difference between last days of in******w.lk and this forum now.

32You have been shafted. - Page 2 Empty Re: You have been shafted. Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:51 pm

tubal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Kaush wrote:Tubal, good that you are back in action. It is always better to have different ideas in this forum and better to look at things in different angles. But we should not forget that we are dealing with high risk high return situation where we should be able to take a risk. But it should be a calculated risk that is agreed.
But I’m curious about your investment style because you always see the negative side and never came up with any positive comment even in a bullish market. Even I have made few warnings through my posts and same time I was flexible to ask from forum members things that I don’t know. And also I have made favourable comments for some fundamentally strong shares too. But in your case you never made any favourable comment for any share. Are you not at all investing in shares or you are scared to share your favourable comments with us thinking that if it is went wrong, that will not good for your status? Tubal, no offence intended, please share your thoughts.
Don’t forget we all dealing with high risk high return investments where there is always risk of losing our money.

There is no rule that says everyone has to ask question so I chose not to.

I chose not to promote my shares that's why I almost never recommend buying anything. But I have made one or two exceptions.

A calculated risk is to buy a solid share and planning to hold it through the bear market or sell if the price drops 5%. To buy BLUE hoping it will go up is a gamble. To buy hoping credit clearence will not bring the market down is a gamble. In fact HOPE should not even be in the vocabulary.

High risk does not always give high returns. They more often than not give high loses.

The retail participation seems to have increased over the past few months. That means we are hell of a long way from the bottom.

33You have been shafted. - Page 2 Empty Re: You have been shafted. Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:09 pm

mono

mono
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Academic wrote:
I see following two possible scenarios

  1. Once excess fund supply (2 billion) is exhausted, market may stagnate. However, note that not all brokers have excess funds. So some brokers have to force sell their client's PF. Thus market may go down slowly

  2. Brokers may give credit exceeding legitimate limit in the mid-month and force sell at the end of the month (of course after earning an interest) to show SEC they are under the limit. If this happens we can see month end downs and green at the beginning of the month.

P.S. I do not see a big difference between last days of in******w.lk and this forum now.

So both you and tubal are under the assumption that the new funds will not come into the market. Ok then, let's see how this goes.

34You have been shafted. - Page 2 Empty Re: You have been shafted. Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:59 am

innam

innam
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

tubal wrote:
as i said, two new forums have sprung up Twisted Evil

are they any good?

35You have been shafted. - Page 2 Empty Re: You have been shafted. Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:31 am

laksharemk


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Investing is not merely taking risks. It is the act of studying hard, being vigilant of macro and micro factors, reading the situations correctly and most importantly taking the right decision at the right time. It is minimizing the possible risk of losing money and improving the probability of earning the expected return of the investment. The credit thing is only a single factor, and the market have already reacted with some green days and now we need to study what are the factors those will decide the future direction of the market. To list a few,
1. Company earnings - Even though many companies have shown positive growth is it enough to justify the investor expectations bid in late 2010 and early 2011.
2. Fear of another recession - Need to evaluate the probability and level of impact to CSE
3. Future potential of the country - Need to think in line with the already appreciated amount for this and possible future appreciation
4. Foreign investors and investment funds behavior

The next thing is to identify shares with positive impacts from these factors and evaluate in isolation. This will help identify out performers and at least to be safe even in a down trend.
Just following the crowd or being driven by the rumors or the general perception will not do any good and it will be clearly a huge risk with high probability to lose even the invested capital.

36You have been shafted. - Page 2 Empty Re: You have been shafted. Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:10 pm

sapumal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

tubal wrote:I chose not to promote my shares that's why I almost never recommend buying anything.

That's unfair bro. Most of the people not promoting shares these days. Most of the investors tend to do trades rather investing. I saw most of the people use the terms like
This share is over valued . but .... , I haven't done any fundamental analysis . but ...

Most of the users are active on the stock market talks section(not fundamental side). Please reveal your shares. We don't take them as promotions.
it is not fair you blame traders while you do trades in CSE. Anyway we don't have options other than gambling money on CSE. Lol

37You have been shafted. - Page 2 Empty Re: You have been shafted. Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:50 pm

Market Sucker

Market Sucker
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

tubal wrote:
Academic wrote:
I see following two possible scenarios

  1. Once excess fund supply (2 billion) is exhausted, market may stagnate. However, note that not all brokers have excess funds. So some brokers have to force sell their client's PF. Thus market may go down slowly

  2. Brokers may give credit exceeding legitimate limit in the mid-month and force sell at the end of the month (of course after earning an interest) to show SEC they are under the limit. If this happens we can see month end downs and green at the beginning of the month.

P.S. I do not see a big difference between last days of in******w.lk and this forum now.

as i said, two new forums have sprung up Twisted Evil
The top ten posters list is telling it's own sorry tale.

haha ,what forums? what sorry tale? scratch
btw im in top posters side Very Happy

38You have been shafted. - Page 2 Empty Re: You have been shafted. Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:58 pm

rijayasooriya

rijayasooriya
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

mono wrote:
Academic wrote:
I see following two possible scenarios


  1. Once excess fund supply (2 billion) is exhausted, market may stagnate. However, note that not all brokers have excess funds. So some brokers have to force sell their client's PF. Thus market may go down slowly
  2. Brokers may give credit exceeding legitimate limit in the mid-month and force sell at the end of the month (of course after earning an interest) to show SEC they are under the limit. If this happens we can see month end downs and green at the beginning of the month.

P.S. I do not see a big difference between last days of in******w.lk and this forum now.


So both you and tubal are under the assumption that the new funds will not come into the market. Ok then, let's see how this goes.

No point of discussing friend as very few of so called CFA qualified people lack common sense and they have been shafted with their own ideas.

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