Time to grab some shares !!!

GM all ! with the limited time i have, i have no time to write essays and explain all..

If the mkt turns red ( has a 80% chance of been red ), it will be the time to collect some shares for a better tomorrow.

some of the shares you guys need to look into : CWM / TAFL below 95 / ODEL / JINS below 14 / KOTA (MT) / COCO / HWPR .

Odel ?

Do not buy on credit

Do not buy on credit

thats obvious isnt it ? lol..

Universalgoal wrote:Odel ?

No answer from anyone?

I would like to stay away from all of that.
I do not get involved in speculative shares or chicken, its against my ethical norms.

Think9 wrote:GM all ! with the limited time i have, i have no time to write essays and explain all..

If the mkt turns red ( has a 80% chance of been red ), it will be the time to collect some shares for a better tomorrow.

some of the shares you guys need to look into : CWM / TAFL below 95 / ODEL / JINS below 14 / KOTA (MT) / COCO / HWPR .

Good god man, didn't you buy these shares when they were trading at a never to be repeated, once in a lifetime bargain price on the 28th of November? Are you saying these shares will dip below those never to be repeated prices? What they already have?

Think9 wrote:

Do not buy on credit

thats obvious isnt it ? lol..

not on the credit and has to have a holding power for some time

manula wrote:

Think9 wrote:

Do not buy on credit

thats obvious isnt it ? lol..

not on the credit and has to have a holding power for some time

So why buy and hold? Why not hold your cash and buy when the market reaches the bottom? The often repeated quote that 'no one can predict the market bottom' is a quote that's only repeated in this forum. You will not find that statement in a trading/investing book.
The likes of stocksmate and the new technical analyst at BRS will spot the bottom with their eyes closed.
Recently Sriranga had posted an article which explains several different techniques that one may adapt to identify the bottom.

The idea is that you don't actually try to predict the bottom. You can spot the bottom quite easily after it has formed. So instead of buying a share at 100, seeing it drop to 70 then slowly crawl back upto 100 again and killing yourself with stress. Better to wait for the share to hit 70, go up to the first resistance level and buy if it breaks through? If it doesn't break through, what you had is a false bottom and the prices will drop further. This approach will for sure get you a price better than the 100 you are willing to pay now.

manula wrote:

Think9 wrote:

Do not buy on credit

thats obvious isnt it ? lol..

not on the credit and has to have a holding power for some time

see rubber.trader has a point there too..

Why u buy high and hold on to it if you know u can buy it low?

What I'm doing now is; I wait for my favourite counters to hit low to collect, then again I buy small 100 quantities for various prices to see whether I can do a swing/short term trade till it reach those levels.. If not its not a big loss either..

rubber.trader wrote:

manula wrote:

Think9 wrote:

Do not buy on credit

thats obvious isnt it ? lol..

not on the credit and has to have a holding power for some time

So why buy and hold? Why not hold your cash and buy when the market reaches the bottom? The often repeated quote that 'no one can predict the market bottom' is a quote that's only repeated in this forum. You will not find that statement in a trading/investing book.
The likes of stocksmate and the new technical analyst at BRS will spot the bottom with their eyes closed.
Recently Sriranga had posted an article which explains several different techniques that one may adapt to identify the bottom.

The idea is that you don't actually try to predict the bottom. You can spot the bottom quite easily after it has formed. So instead of buying a share at 100, seeing it drop to 70 then slowly crawl back upto 100 again and killing yourself with stress. Better to wait for the share to hit 70, go up to the first resistance level and buy if it breaks through? If it doesn't break through, what you had is a false bottom and the prices will drop further. This approach will for sure get you a price better than the 100 you are willing to pay now.

It seems you have a great ability to predict the bottom of some stocks. Can you please give me some examples of some stocks which are in the bottom now?
I am planning to buy some SAMP, will it drop to 160-170? if so when?
I am planning to buy some KGAL, will it drop to 70-80? if so when?

Thanks in advance.

smallville wrote:

manula wrote:

Think9 wrote:

Do not buy on credit

thats obvious isnt it ? lol..

not on the credit and has to have a holding power for some time

see rubber.trader has a point there too..

Why u buy high and hold on to it if you know u can buy it low?

What I'm doing now is; I wait for my favourite counters to hit low to collect, then again I buy small 100 quantities for various prices to see whether I can do a swing/short term trade till it reach those levels.. If not its not a big loss either..

no one can predict the bottom correctly. The better way is buying small quantites like small says buying 100 quantity for variours prices.. if you seen the market same thing is happen every day ..trading small qunatity of shares.. if it falling less you can do short term tradae or to hold ...

TortoizePlus wrote:

It seems you have a great ability to predict the bottom of some stocks. Can you please give me some examples of some stocks which are in the bottom now?
I am planning to buy some SAMP, will it drop to 160-170? if so when?
I am planning to buy some KGAL, will it drop to 70-80? if so when?

Thanks in advance.

Please help me too. Please let me know the possible bottoms of DOCK, JKH, GLAS,.. .
Also would appreciated if you can tell if there is any stock that has bottomed out at current level.
Thanks in advance.

TortoizePlus wrote:

It seems you have a great ability to predict the bottom of some stocks. Can you please give me some examples of some stocks which are in the bottom now?
I am planning to buy some SAMP, will it drop to 160-170? if so when?
I am planning to buy some KGAL, will it drop to 70-80? if so when?

Thanks in advance.



Please help me too. Please let me know the possible bottoms of DOCK, JKH, GLAS,.. .
Also would appreciated if you can tell if there is any stock that has bottomed out at current level.
Thanks in advance.

why dont u tel us the bottom level of all the shares ?? LOL . ill give u Rs. 50,000 for each share if u guess it right. lol
Thanks in advance.

rubber.trader wrote:
The idea is that you don't actually try to predict the bottom. You can spot the bottom quite easily after it has formed. Better to wait for the share to hit 70, go up to the first resistance level and buy if it breaks through? If it doesn't break through, what you had is a false bottom and the prices will drop further.

I appreciate what you are trying to say. This is kind of approach that technical traders would do. But it doesn't mean that its the only correct way. In a small and illiquid market I don't know how accurate these will work.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Dear Think9,
I guess TotoizePlus asking the questions from 'rubber.trader'. I am also waiting good explanation from him about the bottom of shares stated by TotoizePlus coz I too feel 'rubber.trader' has good analytical mind in shares.

kam2011 wrote:Dear Think9,
I guess TotoizePlus asking the questions from 'rubber.trader'. I am also waiting good explanation from him about the bottom of shares stated by TotoizePlus coz I too feel 'rubber.trader' has good analytical mind in shares.

Yes I asked the question from rubber.trader?

@rubber.trader
I would like to make life much easier to you?. Please send me the bottom of two best rubber stocks KGAL and HOPL?

I will appriciate any fundemantal or technical expalnations...

Thanks

My dear marketwatch, tiger and other falling knife catchers,

I have absolutely no idea what will be the bottom of HOPL, KGAL, DOCK or any other share.

Let me remind you what I actually said:
"The idea is that you don't actually try to predict the bottom. You can spot the bottom quite easily after it has formed. "


All these share will hit the bottom sooner or later (most likely later). KGAL might find a bottom at 99 or 70 or 50 or even 10 but it's not my intention to guess what that bottom price will be.

Now once the bottom is formed, spotting that bottom is easy as shooting at a barn door with a shotgun. Anyone can do it. For some pointers please refer to Sriranga's recent article.

Read any book, just any book on trading and they will all tell you "NEVER TRY TO CATCH THE FALLING KNIFE, wait till it falls to the ground and pick it up"


Remember HOPL has fallen all the way from 96 people thought it attractive at 90, 80, 76, 60, 50, 40, 35 and now it's 34

Thanks..

Now it is clear..
People can try to predict...
but no one can do it to the point….
It is very difficult to time the market..

[quote="manula)no one can predict the bottom correctly. The better way is buying small quantites like small says buying 100 quantity for variours prices.. if you seen the market same thing is happen every day ..trading small qunatity of shares.. if it falling less you can do short term tradae or to hold ...[/quote]

by TortoizePlus on Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:05 pm

Thanks..

Now it is clear
People can try to predict...
but no one can do it to the point….
It is very difficult to time the market..

That true... no one can predict correctly but as market flcuation pattern we can get some idea of the price change if you study carefully.. so if you are active investor in the marekt better buy small qunatites and average if required.

Read this article
http://www.thedigeratilife.com/blog/index.php/2008/11/07/10-signs-of-a-stock-market-bottom/

I wonder why people are working so hard to convince themselves and others that market bottoms are so hard to spot. Nothing could be easier. it's probably the easiest thing in investing.

One argument is that it's pointless to spot a bottom after it has happened. Say what? Since a typical bull run lasts more than an year and momentum builds up slowly it really does not matter if we only spot the bottom only a month or two after it has occurred

Sure beats buying halfway down and holding for 6 months till the market touches the bottom.

rubber.trader wrote:I wonder why people are working so hard to convince themselves and others that market bottoms are so hard to spot. Nothing could be easier. it's probably the easiest thing in investing.

One argument is that it's pointless to spot a bottom after it has happened. Say what? Since a typical bull run lasts more than an year and momentum builds up slowly it really does not matter if we only spot the bottom only a month or two after it has occurred

Sure beats buying halfway down and holding for 6 months till the market touches the bottom.

Dear friend, If someone wants to earn money from stock trading no need to wait till it's uptrend. Even in the bear you can make some money. Why not we do that rather than crying saying market would be dropped further and so on. Really I cant understand why such ppl are posting in this forum without doing any business in the stock market.

Rajaraam wrote:

rubber.trader wrote:I wonder why people are working so hard to convince themselves and others that market bottoms are so hard to spot. Nothing could be easier. it's probably the easiest thing in investing.

One argument is that it's pointless to spot a bottom after it has happened. Say what? Since a typical bull run lasts more than an year and momentum builds up slowly it really does not matter if we only spot the bottom only a month or two after it has occurred

Sure beats buying halfway down and holding for 6 months till the market touches the bottom.

Dear friend, If someone wants to earn money from stock trading no need to wait till it's uptrend. Even in the bear you can make some money. Why not we do that rather than crying saying market would be dropped further and so on. Really I cant understand why such ppl are posting in this forum without doing any business in the stock market.

I assume you would have read at least one book in trading (any book will do). Every single book on trading say don't catch the falling knife for a very good reason. It's being tried and tested by ametures for over a century and it's proven not to work.

If you have actually succeeded in making money by catching the falling knife consistently you should immediately do a phd and write a book.

Some really expert traders might in fact make money catching the falling knife, but such experts don't make the sort of wild predictions that you have scattered throughout this forum, so you will find it rather difficult to convince many of us that you actually succeeded at something that even the likes of Larry Williams failed at.

Rajaraam wrote:

rubber.trader wrote:I wonder why people are working so hard to convince themselves and others that market bottoms are so hard to spot. Nothing could be easier. it's probably the easiest thing in investing.

One argument is that it's pointless to spot a bottom after it has happened. Say what? Since a typical bull run lasts more than an year and momentum builds up slowly it really does not matter if we only spot the bottom only a month or two after it has occurred

Sure beats buying halfway down and holding for 6 months till the market touches the bottom.

Dear friend, If someone wants to earn money from stock trading no need to wait till it's uptrend. Even in the bear you can make some money. Why not we do that rather than crying saying market would be dropped further and so on. Really I cant understand why such ppl are posting in this forum without doing any business in the stock market.

well said Raja