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51VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:19 pm

ISURU


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

At what price it will be started?

52VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:22 pm

jaya


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

I hope less selling of VONE, but LFIN, VFIN, PMBC, like wise start run as much as possible given value to VONE and mid of the next month big players will start to sell VONE.

53VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:40 pm

Chabbi


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

If VONE started then its the bad time of SOFT ... guys 2mrw soft too comming Sad

54VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:51 pm

2011_NewComer


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Chabbi wrote:If VONE started then its the bad time of SOFT ... guys 2mrw soft too comming Sad


Soft logic starts on 12th
http://cse.lk/cmt/upload_cse_announcements/7731310038231_.pdf

Smile

55VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:57 pm

Akalanka


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics


will it start 30- 40 or 40- 50 range .. it depends . if there will be a huge buying presser and big orders it can reach even 50 , but if huge selling pressure occurs it differs.

there are several things to consider .

The ASI is low at the current market condition and lot of investers are having red PF so if they had a chance to cut loss by VONE they will go for sell

PPL who cleared money from their pf to invest would like to go for a quick gain than holding

As all the fundamentals and previous winners are in low prize ppl who can gain from VONE will exit and go for future investments and for averaging

if it starts to trade 40-50 guyies who had pp will sell to have quick gains and will enter at low due to their own sell down.

And there are several positive factors also to be considered

VONE is the most sound and well retailer oriented IPO prized IPO where the PP was also done at 25

today also there was gains on vallible finance and Rocel , so tomorrow can be the day for VONE

PPL who exited from earlier due to the down trend are handful of money to enter in to a very promising profile

Expected future growth may persuade investors to pay premium prize for vone.

So So lets keep best hopes as we know all of us is having some amount of VONE at our pockets .. good luck. .

Very Happy Very Happy

56VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:03 pm

Chabbi

Chabbi
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

2011_NewComer wrote:
Chabbi wrote:If VONE started then its the bad time of SOFT ... guys 2mrw soft too comming Sad


Soft logic starts on 12th
http://cse.lk/cmt/upload_cse_announcements/7731310038231_.pdf

Smile

Im sorry guys since i saw announcement thr i thought it will start 2mrw ..

My apologizes

57VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:28 pm

xhora

xhora
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Still it's not showing in my DFN pf
is this normal?

58VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:45 pm

ss7097

ss7097
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

xhora wrote:Still it's not showing in my DFN pf
is this normal?

It shows me in DFN in the afternoon. I received 2200 shares from 40k which i applied.

59VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty VONE 1st day Price Calculation? Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:23 pm

cmnet123

cmnet123
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

According to the market value of its subsidiaries VOne should have a market price as follows.
As @ 2011/07/07 closing price
RCL-158.7
LFIN-181.40
SAMP-242

Then VONE PRICE= RCL*51%+LFIN*51%+ SAMP*15%
=158.7*0.51+181.40*0.51+242*0.15
=209.75 almost 210

I have not considered the investments on Delmege and Orient Garment...Please make me correct if this value is not true.I think this share is having much value than we think(most of them saying 60-65 worth). Is it worth to sell a share having a more worth than we think? Your Valuable comments are expected.

60VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:27 pm

Akalanka

Akalanka
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Then VONE PRICE= RCL*51%+LFIN*51%+ SAMP*15%
=158.7*0.51+181.40*0.51+242*0.15
=209.75 almost 210

What is this calculation . i cant understand Question Question can you explain more Very Happy

61VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:31 pm

jake

jake
Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic

wow what a calculation.DP might have missed this.lol
He will fire the chief accountant and hire you if he sees this.

62VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:40 pm

cmnet123

cmnet123
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Akalanka wrote:Then VONE PRICE= RCL*51%+LFIN*51%+ SAMP*15%
=158.7*0.51+181.40*0.51+242*0.15
=209.75 almost 210

What is this calculation . i cant understand Question Question can you explain more Very Happy

If We holds a 1 VONE share we own 51% of 1 RCL share 51% of 1 LFIN sahre & 15% of 1 SAMP share. To have a true value we need to consider the individual market prices of each share for example as to buy a RCL share 158.7 has to be spent. Hope you get it. IF i'm wrong please correct me..aswel

63VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:44 pm

chamith

chamith
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

lol...
lol!

64VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:52 pm

Capt

Capt
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Smile
The Greg must be trading at;
2075 * 0.64 = 1327 ONLY because of their 64% stake in Colombo Pharmacy.
I don't know whether you are joking, trying to manipulate or really don't understand how to calculate.

65VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:07 pm

schacha


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

This must b the calculation methodology used by most retailers and that's why share price go sky even LOFC went up to 22. Very Happy
Regulators here is the point.
Just teach the retailers how to calculate share value. No need further rules and restrictions to control the market. Very Happy
It was not the manipulation. Very Happy

66VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:13 pm

chamith

chamith
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

one of my friend got 4000 from 8000 he applied. lucky guy...
obviously he is an employee...

67VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:19 pm

Rajitha

Rajitha
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

cmnet123 wrote:According to the market value of its subsidiaries VOne should have a market price as follows.
As @ 2011/07/07 closing price
RCL-158.7
LFIN-181.40
SAMP-242

Then VONE PRICE= RCL*51%+LFIN*51%+ SAMP*15%
=158.7*0.51+181.40*0.51+242*0.15
=209.75 almost 210

I have not considered the investments on Delmege and Orient Garment...Please make me correct if this value is not true.I think this share is having much value than we think(most of them saying 60-65 worth). Is it worth to sell a share having a more worth than we think? Your Valuable comments are expected.

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t5916-shoe-shine-boys
No wonder about the SL market!!

68VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:50 pm

Hiru


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

cmnet123 wrote:According to the market value of its subsidiaries VOne should have a market price as follows.
As @ 2011/07/07 closing price
RCL-158.7
LFIN-181.40
SAMP-242

Then VONE PRICE= RCL*51%+LFIN*51%+ SAMP*15%
=158.7*0.51+181.40*0.51+242*0.15
=209.75 almost 210

I have not considered the investments on Delmege and Orient Garment...Please make me correct if this value is not true.I think this share is having much value than we think(most of them saying 60-65 worth). Is it worth to sell a share having a more worth than we think? Your Valuable comments are expected.

Dear friend, I do not tell you are wrong or right, but I hope you would be a successful investor if you can read more about company valuations, specially the companies up for listing. I am not going to explain anything in detail as these things can be learnt by your self if you search in Google.

These valuation models are used to determine Ordinary Shares of a Company.

1. P/E Ratio method
2. Dividend Valuation Method
3. Net Assets Value method
There are some more methods and you will see them if you are eager to study.

I believe you are not going to take the controlling power of the company at this IPO, so all three methods can be used if you know the basics and variables needed to each method.

However, you need to consider other factors also and if you give more weight to other factors influencing share prices I hope you would reach your suggested answer, my prediction is well below that.

69VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:03 am

swarnasana


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Hiru wrote:
cmnet123 wrote:According to the market value of its subsidiaries VOne should have a market price as follows.
As @ 2011/07/07 closing price
RCL-158.7
LFIN-181.40
SAMP-242

Then VONE PRICE= RCL*51%+LFIN*51%+ SAMP*15%
=158.7*0.51+181.40*0.51+242*0.15
=209.75 almost 210

I have not considered the investments on Delmege and Orient Garment...Please make me correct if this value is not true.I think this share is having much value than we think(most of them saying 60-65 worth). Is it worth to sell a share having a more worth than we think? Your Valuable comments are expected.

Dear friend, I do not tell you are wrong or right, but I hope you would be a successful investor if you can read more about company valuations, specially the companies up for listing. I am not going to explain anything in detail as these things can be learnt by your self if you search in Google.

These valuation models are used to determine Ordinary Shares of a Company.

1. P/E Ratio method
2. Dividend Valuation Method
3. Net Assets Value method
There are some more methods and you will see them if you are eager to study.

I believe you are not going to take the controlling power of the company at this IPO, so all three methods can be used if you know the basics and variables needed to each method.

However, you need to consider other factors also and if you give more weight to other factors influencing share prices I hope you would reach your suggested answer, my prediction is well below that.

Very Good. Telling him the correct way...

70VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:10 am

alexd


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic

VONE shares yet to show up in my CDAX pf !!!

71VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:52 am

DK


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

cmnet,
Read Hiru's reply at http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t6361-vone-1st-day-price-calculation#42744.

The method you have used is correct for valuing some types of assets (and therefore stocks) but is dead wrong for others. Unfortunately in the case of VONE, it's the latter.

The method you use is what is used to value indexed funds. Why does it work there? Because by definition, the fund is nothing more than a bunch of stocks put together. You are doing nothing more than to buy a piece of that. So the valuation of the fund is exactly the price of ths shares (well there would be some commissions and other fees applied, but you get the idea).

For a company, that mechanism does not work. Why? Because holding on to other shares would not be the only action it would do. In case of VONE, they are going to build a hotel. And the share prices of the companies it hold doesnt make a material difference because they wont be selling it out.

72VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:58 am

sanjeewa88

sanjeewa88
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

You can't value the share by using this mathematical calculation.

Actually if you want to calculate it mathematically consider the number of shares them.

But remember it never gives you a real valuation.

73VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:00 am

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

cmnet123 wrote:According to the market value of its subsidiaries VOne should have a market price as follows.
As @ 2011/07/07 closing price
RCL-158.7
LFIN-181.40
SAMP-242

Then VONE PRICE= RCL*51%+LFIN*51%+ SAMP*15%
=158.7*0.51+181.40*0.51+242*0.15
=209.75 almost 210

I have not considered the investments on Delmege and Orient Garment...Please make me correct if this value is not true.I think this share is having much value than we think(most of them saying 60-65 worth). Is it worth to sell a share having a more worth than we think? Your Valuable comments are expected.

My friend, I am presuming you are doing this calculation as you are not aware of the correct methods and not for any other reason.

As VOL is listed under Diversified sector,

a) look at it current EPS
b) define a reasonable PE compared to sector and future growth

and calculate it value. You can also consider the NAV also and look at ROE, PEG ratio etc.

Above method is not the correct way.


74VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:01 am

rizjiji


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

My dfn pf still does not show VONE... is it ok

75VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:31 am

swan03


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

rizjiji wrote:My dfn pf still does not show VONE... is it ok

Mine too hasnt updated yet. They will update after 9 a.m

76VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:35 am

maalinda


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

are you serious dude ??? what a calculation... LOL.. seriously i should not laugh. but cant stop.

77VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:55 am

RichDad

RichDad
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

That's the way a professional would do it. Well done Hiru. Positive Rep. And thanks slstock.

78VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:13 am

alexd


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic

alexd wrote:VONE shares yet to show up in my CDAX pf !!!

Finally! Its now in my pf.

79VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:16 am

pdgsuranga

pdgsuranga
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VONE will be big movement. I guess it will reach.....60/=

80VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:19 am

swan03


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Mine not yet.

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