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EPF -Investments In CSE-Mixed responses

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UKboy
Light of Hope
sriranga
opfdo
Kumar
soileconomy
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1EPF -Investments In CSE-Mixed responses Empty EPF -Investments In CSE-Mixed responses Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:01 pm

soileconomy

soileconomy
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Lot of discussions are going on for EPF investments.Amendments to EPF act is to presented to the parliament on 18 of January.That will enable EPF to invest in equity market.
All these days EPF fund which comes to about Rs 900 Bn was mainly invested in Government securities.Since the drop of bank's deposit interest rates from year 2009 , with the intervention of CBSL ,government securities also drop in line with Banks deposit rates.
But the problem is such a massive amount of monies were invested in Government securities and what is the economic basics of yielding a return on them.Simply these monies were invested in government projects ,which may hardly yield a return above 5%.But governments continued to pay higher interest for EPF members irrespective of the outcome of its investments.It is just like paying interest for old members with new member's money.As a country are we getting anything from these types of investments.
Since the private sector in Sri Lanka annually reports an average growth more than governments projects , Investing (Through EPF/PENSION ) in public quoted companies is justifiable.
And more positively government's encouragement in private sector is endorsed by this move.Then the strong combination with private sector may be approved by investors , unfortunately present situation is not so.
Recent investments by EPF were very controversial , not because of the method , but the way it was done.
I may agree if EPF invests a certain percentage of its money in equity market rather than putting whole thing in government's projects.

Kumar

Kumar
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Good info mate.
We need to wait and see the way how they are going to handle in future.

opfdo

opfdo
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

thanks mate

sriranga

sriranga
Co-Admin

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Hope we can expect good movements in CSE in near future.
Nowadays wait and see is the best medicine,
Predictions made everyone mad.

http://sharemarket-srilanka.blogspot.co.uk/

soileconomy

soileconomy
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Some people may have a different opinion that investing through EPF/PENSION funds may, not give expected returns.But I observe it could give a higher return than government securities.It is not because we have made our investments in share market , but if we look the benefits of all EPF /PENSION members.
In other countries this is not a new thing and they have proved that it is giving a good return even though it is associated with comparatively higher risk.I have seen some pension funds have had investments in CSE also.

Light of Hope


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Wonder how the EPF members will respond to this move

UKboy

UKboy
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Below link was opened by think9 and many people express their views regarding the government funds and its investments.
Probably one of the best topics I have seen in this forum. If someone asks me to select the top 10 topics in this forum this is definitely one of them

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t5869-epf-etf-poor-invesment-strategies

bakapandithaya

bakapandithaya
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Dis time, whr thy goin 2 inv dis money Question

soileconomy

soileconomy
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

At the moment Colombo Stock Exchange Needs long term investments.
Foreign funds, And investors are not investing in CSE due to their own economic problems .
EPF/PENSION funds are long term investments funds.as they buy market prices go up sharply and mind you if they begin to sell same could happen.That is why they go for long term investments.
Funds like pension and other social funds are investing in equity markets.It is common in other countries , but sri lanka it is not.
EPF/PENSION Investments will boost the investor confidence to a certain extend which is necessary right now.
I observe the way that was done the recent investments was controversial , not the method because even though this method is new to us it is a normal investment strategy in other countries.
This should be done in a more transparent way.

K.Haputantri

K.Haputantri
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There are certain things that the Govt., institutions can do, per se, but should not even attempt to do, in the name of Good Governance, fair play and the trust placed on them by poor EPF contributors. Even if new amendments allow investment of EPF funds in the share market it is unethical to do so without the consent of contributor members. Recent contravertial investments by them, well above the market price, in some shares without enabling legal provisions are ultra veires and no proper investigations were carried out. Already, millions of rupees of the fund have been wiped out as accumulating losses. Of course, with the proposed enabling legal provisions they will have freedom to continue the "game" without any obstacle.

soileconomy

soileconomy
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

K.Haputantri.
I agree with you ,but there should be a way to minimize such kind of malpractices.Recent Buying of fundamentally sound stocks at high prices /speculative stocks created some fear in members.But there are other companies who have bought stocks at very higher prices .Eg-One listed investment company bought DIAL at Rs 11.5 (millions of shares)
Practically it is difficult to get the consent for EPF/PENSION amendments from each member.
But I might say,
By buying large number of shares by EPF/PENSION fund-Government should not interfere the companies.But Commercial bank, HNB got government directors.No idea about DOCK and other companies.
Main objective of EPF /PENSION funds should to get capital gain/other income rather than controlling these companies.

rijayasooriya

rijayasooriya
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Tomorrow we will buy on credit....Day after we will sell it to EPF/ETF.. Laughing Laughing Laughing

manula


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

To stable the stock market we required a big money..like from EPF/PENSION money... but not sure how correctly they used.. that willl be the main question.. buying HVA,BLUE in high price ????

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