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176VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:32 pm

gamaya


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Deva wrote:
BenZ wrote:
zen wrote:
BenZ wrote:Nimal Perera Dropping every time when it comes towards 30 level

Why would he do that?


Yeah I have the same question as well.

BenZ, it's true sometime back he sold a big amount of his VONE shares. For the current downward trend, is there any evidence of involvement of NP factor.

NP is a trader. He will exit if he detects more short term lucrative adventures.

177VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:47 pm

zen


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

gamaya wrote:
Deva wrote:
BenZ wrote:
zen wrote:
BenZ wrote:Nimal Perera Dropping every time when it comes towards 30 level

Why would he do that?


Yeah I have the same question as well.

BenZ, it's true sometime back he sold a big amount of his VONE shares. For the current downward trend, is there any evidence of involvement of NP factor.

NP is a trader. He will exit if he detects more short term lucrative adventures.

You could be correct. If he knew that this credit clearance issue is coming, he would clear his entire portfolio to enter the market around this time.

178VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:58 pm

windi5


Moderator
Moderator

Directors are buying SHL and its trading way below IPO price. Issued share amount is comparatively less than VONE.

179VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:01 pm

chamith


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

NP take even 1, 2 LKR profit also. He is a trader. (Eg: PCH, PABC)
This time he sold his stake at 30 so he can collect later on for less. Thats what traders do.

Today i saw a massive sell order (Half million shares) at around 27.30 or something. If someone really want to exit he wont put a massive sell order like that. Its just stupid. Lets see what will happen. Anyway this share i keep as a long term share, like a FD.

180VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:05 pm

chamith


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

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Last edited by chamith on Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:50 pm; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : error post)

181VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty VONE.N0000`C Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:50 am

punter

punter
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VONE.N0000`C

10:15:07 27.40 2,878,100

what is that can u explain this?? is bought or sold ??? alien alien alien

182VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty VONE @ Current Price Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:04 am

pathum

pathum
Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic

Is VONE.N0000 attractive at current market price?

183VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:31 am

ravin


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic

some hidden hand maintain this share. better to hold it for 1-2 years.

184VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:33 pm

wcwchamara

wcwchamara
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

If you are targeting long term (1 year or more) worth to buy at this level.

185VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:51 pm

pathum

pathum
Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic

I would rather look forward for medium term. let say 6-9months.

186VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:29 pm

asigiriyage

asigiriyage
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

yes there is a hidden hand but quantity is high meny barriers to break Surprised

187VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:46 pm

Universalgoal


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

if wont move within 3-6 Moth time peaple will start to dump heavily

188VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:11 pm

Dussy


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic

yes my broker also told me this is good for long term

189VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:21 pm

sapumal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

VONE ??????????

What it does have. RCL, SAMP, LFIN, Delmage

SAMP -300 , now - 220
LFIN - 150 , NAV - bellow 50 , price to book value is high

SAMP-300, LFIN-150, RCL-150 ,with premium VONE =25
SAMP =220, LFIN-*** ,RCL -140, VONE ?

190VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:02 pm

Universalgoal


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

verry funny Laughing

191VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:04 pm

Rapaport

Rapaport
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Sapumal,

Samp trading at PER < 10X for FY10 earnings.
RCL trading at PER 10X for FY11 (Upto March) earnings.
LFIN trading at PER 11X for FY11 (Upto March) earnings.

These are very good buys at current levels. Most analyst and researchers are expecting atleast a 40-60% growth for each company for the coming year. Also Vone now owns Delmege and part of Hayleys if im not mistaken.

After VONE IPO, RCL bought a chunk in Delmege and HAyleys too aswell as a paint company. RCL is building a third tile factory which will beready in 18months.

Vone is building a star grade hotel.

So at current price VONE is attractive. (Not a BUY/Sell/Hold recommendation)

The fall in SAMP RCL LFIN are also making these shares a bargain.

Report on RCL http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t10815-rcl-tile-sector-star#72652

192VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:46 pm

chamith

chamith
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Share price fall in LFIN, RCL are not a concern to VONE. Those companies are associate companies of VONE now (>51% ownership). Profits of these companies are ultimately go into the VONE's financials. Therefore the share price is irrelevant as long as these companies bring profits. In other words VONE's performance is based on LFIN, RCL, Delmage, Orit's performance. When you add up 51% of earnings of each of these companies you get the profit figure of VONE. Thats how VONE showed a 5 billion revenue and 1.2 billion profits.

But the SAMP is only an strategic investment. SAMP's share price affects the valuation of VONE as the investment is in a loss at the moment.

Therefore just mealy looking at VONE's associated company's share price fall it can not be concluded that VONE worth less now. That is a silly kind of valuation.

193VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:34 am

windi5

windi5
Moderator
Moderator

some crossings had been taken place yesterday around 27

194VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:42 pm

windi5

windi5
Moderator
Moderator

Today also some collections at 27

195VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:55 pm

WildBear


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

VONE at IPO price now, Good to enter

196VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:13 pm

tj


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic

When i looked at the order book today i saw some 800k buy orders @ 25. However after that there was only about 20k buy orders for the next two rupees. Further if i am not mistaken today's last trade was 84,000 shares @ 25. I suggest you look at the order book tomorrow morning and see whether there is support @ 25 level before buying or else this may drop further

This is only my understanding and not a buy or sell recommendation

tj

197VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty VONE sinking Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:43 pm

dsam

dsam
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

VONE was highly recommended by everybody during it's IPO and expected to sharp increase of share price,now decreasing day by day(Now trading more below the IPO price). Is there any possibility that share price will go up in near future to a reasonable level?Senior members I need your valuable comments,please.

198VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:26 pm

Light of Hope


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

True, even I am puzzled with it's down trend, well I collected well below it's IPO price even at 20.3. I beleive it's good to hold, probably medium term.

this would come to 25 very fast, when the market recoveres. I am not worried about this share.

199VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:47 pm

bakapandithaya

bakapandithaya
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Not only VONE, Dammika also sinking in ......... Very Happy

200VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:53 pm

Rajaraam


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

No Specific reason for VONE to drop. The market behaviour prevailed these days do not allow any share to recover.Only shares of 90% foreign owned companies are moving up.(Eg;Nestle,Ceylon Tobacco,LLUB)
The reason is they are continuesly declaring good dividends since they want to take money earned.Therfore any small shareholder also get good dividends.VONE is a new company and it needs reasonable time to grow. Therefore in a bear market you cant expect more than what is hapening now for not only VONE but PLC,EXPO also.

201VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:06 am

sriranga

sriranga
Co-Admin

Rajaraam wrote:No Specific reason for VONE to drop. The market behaviour prevailed these days do not allow any share to recover.Only shares of 90% foreign owned companies are moving up.(Eg;Nestle,Ceylon Tobacco,LLUB)
The reason is they are continuesly declaring good dividends since they want to take money earned.Therfore any small shareholder also get good dividends.VONE is a new company and it needs reasonable time to grow. Therefore in a bear market you cant expect more than what is hapening now for not only VONE but PLC,EXPO also.
Agreed and good point regarding foreign owned companies.

http://sharemarket-srilanka.blogspot.co.uk/

202VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:44 am

CHASE

CHASE
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Check the dealing by directors. net sale is
about 10m. Shares held by public has increase 138m to 210m
Smartest investor EPF bought another 41.6m shares ( again public money )
hold
on the baby till they want it back or sell at a loss/Small profit &
buy back on the top of a rally when they feel to sell & be a long
term investor.

203VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:49 am

chamith

chamith
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

I'm not sure if the numbers you have presented here are accurate: Somehow according to my analysis;

Before the IPO the company had 185,480,999 shares held by public.
After the 21m IPO issue the shares held by public stands at 213,943,537.

Following are the changes of the shareholding
VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Captur15

204VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:18 am

raa


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

does anyone know if VONE plans on announcing a dividend??

205VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:19 am

CHASE

CHASE
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

chamith wrote:I'm not sure if the numbers you have presented here are accurate: Somehow according to my analysis;

Before the IPO the company had 185,480,999 shares held by public.
After the 21m IPO issue the shares held by public stands at 213,943,537.

Following are the changes of the shareholding
VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 8 Captur15

my numbers are pretty much correct I think. Check the annual report 2010/11 page no 69
Others 138m, 12.98% from the total. Sep financials it says public holding is 19.69% ( assume total no. of shares didn't change may be small difference here, I'll double check)
check the march annual report W D N D Perera held 8.2 share & in sep not in top 20 list
I count all the sales purchases in announcement total net sales about 11m & his bro bought 1m so net about 10m

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