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SOFTLOGIC LIFE INSURANCE PLC (AAIC.N0000)

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navipayagala


Stock Trader
how long doe sit take to reach 30?

nis2010


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@navipayagala wrote:how long doe sit take to reach 30?
SOFTLOGIC LIFE INSURANCE PLC (AAIC.N0000) - Page 2 Waitin10

nis2010


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
AAIC coming down slowly below 19

TraderCSE


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@Teller wrote:No need thanks, even i recommend or not,buy or not, this share will go up. I wanted to advise new comers to buy this share. AAIC is really strong share. Arpico insuarance is trading highly over value above (40x of PE ratio), but AAIC trades nearly 6 times of PE. In this scenario AAIC is massively under value. See how the order book was cleared today. When it bullish no buyers at all. It will pass JINS price tomorrow and will reach 26 on my,very soon target. Do not forget the important thing which is Only rs.50 million need to push this to rs.30.  This is based on my calculations and all calculations with me to prove. Thats the reason  im so confident to forcast this price.

Teller, can you rework with your calculations and project a reasonable price forecast for AAIC.

We saw lot of Selling pressure during last few days, and trading between 20-21.

Teller


Moderator
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We cant get a conclusion based on one quarter results. AAIC has delivered a better EPS in last quarter,so definitely best in next quarter. they had to bear much cost for new 14 branch openings in last quarters. Those branches will perform better way during coming quarters also There will be a dividend in coming november too. We can see another positive thing During the last quarter there were lot of new share holders came under 20 holders list. Those have baught 17-20/- range to become largest holders. So they will grab more shares at these levels. It looks Some people got panic and sold AAIC in low prices. I am accumulating this in current levels. AAIC is one of my life long investments. It can pass 30 levels easily in a very short time. Still it is so positive as maintaining good support level over 20/levels
It stands 20 means 200 before split so still most of investors are in profit. Time to time investors are looking for some market segments so some of them sold AAIC and switch to poultry stocks. Thats their personal decisions. We cant keep all type of shares in our portfolios, even we dont have much buying powers to do so. Bear in mind that Insurance sector has much stability than any other sectors. Who ever hold definitely winners. When ceylinco trades at very low price no one believe it could pass 1000 rupees. so there should be some rest to stocks & AAIC is in rest levels. Finally believe your holdings with a great trust.

AAIC can post minimum yearly EPS rs 2.80/-
then share price adjustment should be at least 42/- rupees. It will touch 30 levels very easily in correct time. No need to panic at the moment. BL

TraderCSE


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Thanks Teller for your valuable comments. Hope for the best.

nis2010


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Teller wrote:A total of 22 registered Insurers compete in terms of market share of which 12 are composites (Life Insurance and General Insurance). Ceylinco leads the Long term insurance business with Gross Written Premium (GWP) of Rs.10, 829mn with 26.93% market share (2013 IBSL Annual report). SLIC, AIA, UAL and Asian Alliance were able to secure top five positions in the
market.
 
Life insurance penetration in Sri Lanka is currently 0.5% as a percentage of GDP (2013 data) which is very low compared to other countries in the region (India
3.10%). Hence, there is tremendous untapped potential in the life insurance business in Sri Lanka.
Per capita GDP in 2013 reached USD 3,280 compared to USD 2,922 in 2012, and is on its way up to reach UDS 4,000 by 2016. This improves the disposable
income level which can result in an increase in the life insurance penetration level in the industry.
 See the following data  comparison  As  on  September 2014,
 
Union Assurance PLC  -  UAL.N0000  EPS    13.27   NAV (RS) 61.88    PE (X) 12.06    PBV (X) 2.59   price 160.00
Ceylinco Insurance PLC CINS.N0000 EPS (RS)  92.22  NAV(RS) 692.16  PE(X)  14.72   PBV(X) 1.96    price 1,357.00
Ceylinco Insurance PLC (X) CINS.X0000 EPS(RS)  92.22 NAV(RS) 692.16 PE(X) 5.75 PBV(X) 0.77   Price 530.00
AIA Insurance Lanka CTCE.N0000  EPS(RS) 18.78  NAV(RS) 157.78   PE(X) 16.13  PBV(X)  1.92  Price  302.90
Asian Alliance Insurance PLC AAIC.N000  EPS(RS) 27.01 NAV(RS)  68.68 PE(X)  5.48   PBV(X)  2.15    Price 147.90
Janashakthi Insurance PLC JINS.N0000 EPS (RS)  3.18  NAV (RS) 13.04  PE(X) 7.08  PBV(X) 1.7 price 22.50
HNB Assurance PLC HASU.N000  EPS(RS) 7.32 NAV(RS) 44.71  PE(X)  10.98  PBV(X)  1.80  price 80.40
 
 
Market leader Ceylinco insuarance & AIA insurance 14.72 & 16.13  of price earning ratio but  AAIC TRADES ON 5.48 times PE .
Average sector PE should be ( 14.72+16.73) /2 = 15.72
AAIC should trade on  15.72/5.48 =  2.86 times
So market price should be = 2.86 X 147.90 = Rs.422.99
 
This is the scenario on 30.09.2014 but based on average growth in insurance sector  10% can be expected .
 
Price adjustment should be RS 465.289
 
As we awrae that 1 for 10 split ,
I strongly believe this should be traded nearly 50/- before ending this year .
 
AAIC has attractive ratios , 14 new branches opened recently with flexible insurance plans .
 
Best of luck .
Do you have an idea about aaic trading below 19.80???

Aubrey Perera


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
All good things come to those who wait .GL

nis2010


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
when this crap(AAIC) will going up???

bullseye

bullseye
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@Aubrey Perera wrote:All good things come to those who wait .GL
what is GL? means?

nis2010


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@bullseye wrote:
@Aubrey Perera wrote:All good things come to those who wait .GL
what is GL? means?
I think Good Luck

capitallinkceylon


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
I think there's a possibility of this falling further down to 16 level(worst case scenario), that's the lowest level i think it'll fall. Its a must have in your portfolio in the long run. I have been collecting this from 19.50 level 18.10 level for some time. Going to enter again if it falls below 17.50. I'm buying this with a long term view(2yrs). Target price is 35.

33SOFTLOGIC LIFE INSURANCE PLC (AAIC.N0000) - Page 2 Empty I am sorry Mr. Teller I was sall at 20/ 22 Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:53 pm

karuna


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
I know Mr taller your target price
So mm also smiling 

34SOFTLOGIC LIFE INSURANCE PLC (AAIC.N0000) - Page 2 Empty u have little knowledge Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:09 pm

karuna


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@nis2010 wrote:
@Teller wrote:It must pass JINS trading price very soon. If JINS IS trading 23/-,  AAIC Must trade @ 31.50.  These are the secrets which must be understood by intelligence investors.
who bought at high price they will sell before steady below 20.50
So fun . 
Unexpected selling perches increase.  It's
Invisible it is not going 50 can't believe

GameUP1030

GameUP1030
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@karuna wrote:
@nis2010 wrote:
@Teller wrote:It must pass JINS trading price very soon. If JINS IS trading 23/-,  AAIC Must trade @ 31.50.  These are the secrets which must be understood by intelligence investors.
who bought at high price they will sell before steady below 20.50
So fun . 
Unexpected selling perches increase.  It's
Invisible it is not going 50 can't believe
@Teller will AAIC price come down around 16 and i am waiting to buy that, will that be possible?

GameUP1030

GameUP1030
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@GameUP1030 wrote:
@karuna wrote:
@nis2010 wrote:
@Teller wrote:It must pass JINS trading price very soon. If JINS IS trading 23/-,  AAIC Must trade @ 31.50.  These are the secrets which must be understood by intelligence investors.
who bought at high price they will sell before steady below 20.50
So fun . 
Unexpected selling perches increase.  It's
Invisible it is not going 50 can't believe
@Teller will AAIC price come down around 16 and i am waiting to buy that, will that be possible?
BvsB, Wisdom are both of you holding this share? how about it?

nis2010


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@GameUP1030 wrote:
@GameUP1030 wrote:
@karuna wrote:
@nis2010 wrote:
@Teller wrote:It must pass JINS trading price very soon. If JINS IS trading 23/-,  AAIC Must trade @ 31.50.  These are the secrets which must be understood by intelligence investors.
who bought at high price they will sell before steady below 20.50
So fun . 
Unexpected selling perches increase.  It's
Invisible it is not going 50 can't believe
@Teller will AAIC price come down around 16 and i am waiting to buy that, will that be possible?
BvsB, Wisdom are both of you holding this share? how about it?
According to Mr.teller AAIC has a long journey, don't know when where how AAIC starts its journey,

bullstreet


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
get ready..  Basketball

dow

dow
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
target 35+

Jaya sri


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@Teller wrote:A total of 22 registered Insurers compete in terms of market share of which 12 are composites (Life Insurance and General Insurance). Ceylinco leads the Long term insurance business with Gross Written Premium (GWP) of Rs.10, 829mn with 26.93% market share (2013 IBSL Annual report). SLIC, AIA, UAL and Asian Alliance were able to secure top five positions in the
market.
 
Life insurance penetration in Sri Lanka is currently 0.5% as a percentage of GDP (2013 data) which is very low compared to other countries in the region (India
3.10%). Hence, there is tremendous untapped potential in the life insurance business in Sri Lanka.
Per capita GDP in 2013 reached USD 3,280 compared to USD 2,922 in 2012, and is on its way up to reach UDS 4,000 by 2016. This improves the disposable
income level which can result in an increase in the life insurance penetration level in the industry.
 See the following data  comparison  As  on  September 2014,
 
Union Assurance PLC  -  UAL.N0000  EPS    13.27   NAV (RS) 61.88    PE (X) 12.06    PBV (X) 2.59   price 160.00
Ceylinco Insurance PLC CINS.N0000 EPS (RS)  92.22  NAV(RS) 692.16  PE(X)  14.72   PBV(X) 1.96    price 1,357.00
Ceylinco Insurance PLC (X) CINS.X0000 EPS(RS)  92.22 NAV(RS) 692.16 PE(X) 5.75 PBV(X) 0.77   Price 530.00
AIA Insurance Lanka CTCE.N0000  EPS(RS) 18.78  NAV(RS) 157.78   PE(X) 16.13  PBV(X)  1.92  Price  302.90
Asian Alliance Insurance PLC AAIC.N000  EPS(RS) 27.01 NAV(RS)  68.68 PE(X)  5.48   PBV(X)  2.15    Price 147.90
Janashakthi Insurance PLC JINS.N0000 EPS (RS)  3.18  NAV (RS) 13.04  PE(X) 7.08  PBV(X) 1.7 price 22.50
HNB Assurance PLC HASU.N000  EPS(RS) 7.32 NAV(RS) 44.71  PE(X)  10.98  PBV(X)  1.80  price 80.40
 
 
Market leader Ceylinco insuarance & AIA insurance 14.72 & 16.13  of price earning ratio but  AAIC TRADES ON 5.48 times PE .
Average sector PE should be ( 14.72+16.73) /2 = 15.72
AAIC should trade on  15.72/5.48 =  2.86 times
So market price should be = 2.86 X 147.90 = Rs.422.99
 
This is the scenario on 30.09.2014 but based on average growth in insurance sector  10% can be expected .
 
Price adjustment should be RS 465.289
 
As we awrae that 1 for 10 split ,
I strongly believe this should be traded nearly 50/- before ending this year .
 
AAIC has attractive ratios , 14 new branches opened recently with flexible insurance plans .
 
Best of luck .
Jins  now 15 leveel it is good to collect

bullstreet


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
buying opportunity is there @22 level.

aero


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@bullstreet wrote:get ready..  Basketball
great prediction bro 
thx

wisdom79

wisdom79
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
I think now is the best time to enter AAIC after a few years. As Teller explained its value is greater than 100 times than that day.

Better to discuss and win all together a share like this.

I think even Teller can read his post which he explained early.

AAIC this time offered 1.45 dividend.

After it was split into 10, their dividend is higher than before. 

It traded above 50.40 level in March but now it has come down up to 30.

So I firmly believe that AAIC must trade above 75 when we calculate with past few years statics.

What are you ideas about this share.

Better to have a discussion about the future of AAIC and the profit we all together can reap to cover up our loss.

Please comment your ideas about this.

Now AAIC has become the most popular insurance company in Sri Lanka.

Better to reap than waste our money!!!!!!

wisdom79

wisdom79
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Last year AAIC profit was 3.36 bn and now AAIC must be better than before with Leapfrog and has become the leader of inurance beating all the others with 5 awards.

AAIC must reach above 75 level to come to its natural price.

Now AAIC has reached the top level of the insurance sector.

So you will never have a great chance like this again.

Only 3 million  shares remaining for you to buy and win.

Time to collect and hold on your portfolio to win and see yellow every day!!!!!

Buy and be a lucky winner than following on running deer!!!!!!

Good luck to all!!!!!!!!

Lucky Gamage

Lucky Gamage
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
F**k of beach, Before ALHP, Now AAIC,,

wisdom79

wisdom79
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
In 2015 I discuss about AAIC before it split into ten. After that I discuss on how ALHP entered with SOMAP. ALHP has a right issue and until right is over it won't come up because people do not want to buy a share at two because  they can buy at 0.90 or 1.00 rupee.

I have invested on AAIC four years ago when it was at 265.

Now it has become the most popular share and also insurance company of the people. As a result it must move up, as it is profitable at the moment and after 31st of mMarch it will add one more billion to the company.

Now it is at 34 but after two or 3 months it will be 70 or 80 level.

I am still holding over 3 m on ALHP but I feel AAIC is the best at this moment.

Before scolding others, better to make the mistakes we did and be positive.

Money is yours and profit is yours and also loss is also yours because I invest where I need but not where others want!!!!!!!!!

Dogs bark the moon , but the moon is the moon!!!!!!!!

AAIC will show you a new era to enter and come up with a huge profit.....!!!!!!!!

wisdom79

wisdom79
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
There are over 150 branches all over the world. And also AAIC has come up very quickly with the new business plans.

So this chance will never get below 35, therefore better to enter today than worry tomorrow.

I strongly believe that AAIC must reach above 40 soon.

Good luck!!!!!!!

Uaecoindubai

Uaecoindubai
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
I as teller ,recommend this share @CMV

wisdom79

wisdom79
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
When we compare AAIC with other shares, its 2 times below than its natural level at this level. Anyone can buy at this level.

All have moved up AIA @2500, CINS @ 2000, UAL @ 300, HNB @ 120 but AAIC is the most famous among people with over 150 branches and it must naturally move up now. Last year 2018 3.36 bn profit and it is time to understand the value of AAIC.

So better to enter AAIC at this level.

This is not a promotion but to study its past and think of its present profit.

All the shares are with the top 20 list only a few to buy at this level.

Invest and wait until it moves above 50.

I can recommend on March quarter is also well.

So AAIC is very positive at this price.

BUY AND HOLD!!!!

wisdom79

wisdom79
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
AAIC is the best price to enter. It came down 30 from 50. So now 34, it is best to buy now.

AAIC will move up soon. 

Buy and hold within a year it will pass 100/-

Good luck!!!!

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