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176EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:31 am

Chinwi


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

The reason given by Mr. Krishan Balendra of John Keels for this price difference is hilarious.

He said the low price of 6/- was determined because they did not not see financial reports before the the deal as it was done before releasing of the 2010 reports.
After seeing the reports only they have realized a share of their company is worth 14/- rupees ! (and we have to buy at that price.)




177EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:43 am

chamil


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic

I will never subscribe to this IPO. This is utterly unreasonable offer. This is only my personal opinion, the others may think differently.

178EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:07 am

tubal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

DXB2252 wrote:i will not subscribe for this,wait and buy @ trading floor ,what about you guys?

If expo trades at 6.00 I will also think of buying. Otherwise there are plenty of more ethical companies going at bargains prices.

179EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:20 am

milanka


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

DXB2252 wrote:i will not subscribe for this,wait and buy @ trading floor

Yes - So am i on Expo Lanka matter. Looking forward to Softlogic IPO .

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/u188

180EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:37 am

is


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

there is a risk here.....Guys who got thru private placement can even dump few million at around 7~8 and destroy the share price so that they can easily collect more and more at that price.....better not to apply.Softlogic is on the way....why bother abt taking undue risk..

181EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:59 am

Academic


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Chinwi wrote:The reason given by Mr. Krishan Balendra of John Keels for this price difference is hilarious.

He said the low price of 6/- was determined because they did not not see financial reports before the the deal as it was done before releasing of the 2010 reports.
After seeing the reports only they have realized a share of their company is worth 14/- rupees ! (and we have to buy at that price.)

It is ridiculous to hear a person at a high position of a firm to say that they valued the share on past financial reports alone. Any undergraduate or a person even without financial background who visit this forum frequently may know stock valuation is forward looking.

Further, if they cloud not predict next few moths of the business at the time of this transaction, how can we believe their BUY recommendation on Expo's years of earning forecast is accurate Question

If this is the way they value shares, the GOD may bless their clients.



Last edited by Academic on Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:21 pm; edited 1 time in total

182EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:19 pm

StocksWatch


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

tubal wrote:
DXB2252 wrote:i will not subscribe for this,wait and buy @ trading floor ,what about you guys?

If expo trades at 6.00 I will also think of buying. Otherwise there are plenty of more ethical companies going at bargains prices.

Wellsaid Tubal. Why go behind these unethical companies when there are plenty of good companies trading at a bargain these days. I wish this IPO will become an eyeopener for the rest of the scheduled IPO's this year.

183EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:22 pm

TuskerLK

TuskerLK
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Mates,

I got to see a report on Expo done by CT smith.

they also recommend to subscribe.

they are stressing on the advantages of expanding logistics and the possible upturn in the strategic investments.

(I refrain from uploading the report due to possible copyright issues,apologies)

184EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:25 pm

milanka

milanka
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

tinyman wrote:Mates,

I got to see a report on Expo done by CT smith.

they also recommend to subscribe.

they are stressing on the advantages of expanding logistics and the possible upturn in the strategic investments.

(I refrain from uploading the report due to possible copyright issues,apologies)

Joint managers to the expo issue : CT capital - Majestic city ....

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/u188

185EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:28 pm

TuskerLK

TuskerLK
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

milanka wrote:
tinyman wrote:Mates,

I got to see a report on Expo done by CT smith.

they also recommend to subscribe.

they are stressing on the advantages of expanding logistics and the possible upturn in the strategic investments.

(I refrain from uploading the report due to possible copyright issues,apologies)

Joint managers to the expo issue : CT capital - Majestic city ....

Oh is it...

then why they are commenting like this..

"However, according to Capital Trust Director Research, Sarath Rajapakse, there is going to be a massacre of small investors once the Expolanka shares hit the market."

186EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:33 pm

milanka

milanka
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

capital trust is not ct sumith : two different broker companies.

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/u188

187EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:35 pm

MoneyMaker

MoneyMaker
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

My Broker wanted me to get into the EXPO IPO in a big way and he told me that there were people to buy the Expo share on the PP/PA at even 21 but no sellers. I laughed at him and told him in response that I will buy this share in the secondary market as it would be worth if it ranges between 7-9. Very Happy

188EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:58 pm

Antonym

Antonym
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

EXPO might or might not be worth the offer price, but I will not be applying for shares in the IPO.

Reason: There is something called price discrimination and I feel that I have been discriminated against.

My decision is not based entirely on economics. There is something called ethics even in business - and I feel that, by favoring certain individuals, some unmarked boundaries have been crossed...

189EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:12 pm

StocksWatch


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Antonym wrote:EXPO might or might not be worth the offer price, but I will not be applying for shares in the IPO.

Reason: There is something called price discrimination and I feel that I have been discriminated against.

My decision is not based entirely on economics. There is something called ethics even in business - and I feel that, by favoring certain individuals, some unmarked boundaries have been crossed...

Wellsaid Antonym...

190EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Risk ? Expolanka IPO Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:55 pm

shaankh

shaankh
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Expolanka pre-IPO sell down creates controversy

By Indika Sakalasooriya and Jithendra Antonio

Analysts and stock brokerage fraternity in the country were seen little disturbed and distressed about the pre-IPO sell down of the Expolanka Initial Public Offering (IPO), at a significantly low price compared to the offer price.

According to the prospectus of the Expolanka IPO, the sell down of each share by the owners of the company has taken place at Rs.6, while through the IPO, public is offered Rs. 14 per share.

“The question that has been bugging many is, by subscribing to this share at the IPO, aren’t they letting those who bought shares by way of private placements and sell downs at lesser prices (than the IPO price), make money?” a stock market analyst opined on the grounds of anonymity.

He also said that serious doubts have surfaced over the real share value, in the backdrop of company owners selling a considerable part of their stake at Rs.6 per share.

“What we should notice is that, the offer price is 133 percent higher than the sell down price”

The explanation given for the sell down at Rs.6 is, it was done late last year before latest Expolanka financial results came into light.

“There’s no significant difference between the pricing in September 2010 and the pricing now,” Krishan Balendra, President, Corporate Finance & Group Strategy of John Keells Holdings was quoted as saying to Lanka Business Online recently.

However, according to Capital Trust Director Research, Sarath Rajapakse, there is going to be a massacre of small investors once the Expolanka shares hit the market.

“Well the IPO will be oversubscribed, but if the directors have sold down shares to private investors at Rs.6 per share, it means they are going to sell them after IPO anyway,” added Rajapakse.

At the presentation made to the stock brokering community on Tuesday, the managers to the issue John Keells Capital had refused to give any assurance as to whether the private investors will sell at the expense of small retailers, once Expolanka shares enter the CSE trade floor.

Krishan Balendra told Mirror Business at the official launch of the IPO on Tuesday that Expolanka’s directors have sold their holdings to private investors and that does not count as a private placement.

“SEC’s “Lock In Rule” has no relevance to this situation” Balendra added.

Meanwhile, Head of Research at CT Smith Stockbrokers Talaal Maruzook highlighted that Expolanka shares is still attractive, given the fact that Expolanka shares are offered at a discounted price compared to other companies that are listed on the CSE board, under the Diversified Holdings Sector. However, two other companies listed under Diversified Holdings including Richard Pieris (RICH) and Dunamis Capital (CSEC) is also trading at less than Rs.14 levels as per market data.

Expolanka Holdings is to raise Rs. 2.4 billion by issuing 172 million ordinary voting shares at Rs. 14 each, with the IPO opening on May 12.

source - www.dailymirror.lk

191EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:01 pm

MoneyMaker

MoneyMaker
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

This was posted b4

192EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:03 pm

MoneyMaker

MoneyMaker
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

heres the link

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t3116-expolanka-pre-ipo-sell-down-creates-controversy

193EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty sorry ! Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:06 pm

shaankh

shaankh
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Sorry I didn't catch it !

194EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:33 pm

uditha9


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

milanka wrote:
DXB2252 wrote:i will not subscribe for this,wait and buy @ trading floor

Yes - So am i on Expo Lanka matter. Looking forward to Softlogic IPO .
same here.softlogic didnt have a private placement & it is run by trustworthy people. we could make some money there

195EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:46 pm

milanka

milanka
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

uditha9 wrote:
milanka wrote:
DXB2252 wrote:i will not subscribe for this,wait and buy @ trading floor

Yes - So am i on Expo Lanka matter. Looking forward to Softlogic IPO .
same here.softlogic didnt have a private placement & it is run by trustworthy people. we could make some money there

One correction to your post . Read the softlogic PP infor here.

http://www.thesundayleader.lk/2010/03/14/a-billion-for-softlogic/

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/u188

196EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:05 pm

uditha9


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

milanka wrote:
uditha9 wrote:
milanka wrote:
DXB2252 wrote:i will not subscribe for this,wait and buy @ trading floor

Yes - So am i on Expo Lanka matter. Looking forward to Softlogic IPO .
same here.softlogic didnt have a private placement & it is run by trustworthy people. we could make some money there

One correction to your post . Read the softlogic PP infor here.

http://www.thesundayleader.lk/2010/03/14/a-billion-for-softlogic/
thank you for the information.according to that article ipo is going to be on next march which is in one years time. also they had a private placement after feb 8 which means they cant sell those shares for one year

197EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:10 pm

Chabbi

Chabbi
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Everybody concern on the first day sales of Pvt Plcment shares by JKH & other ventures... OK .... I'M 100% AGREE THEY CAN SELL AT VERY HIGH RETURN ....

Any one here can say in case ..... if non of them did'nt sold what would happen ???

what is the price range you all expecting ??? bcz most of here wont subscribe the EXPO .... in case this happen wt wud be the price ???

* 15
* 18
* 20
* 20 + ???

* Pls dont think that im promoting EXPO & make negative on me.. bcz i loss my total reputation by talking this Sad

198EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:13 pm

2011_NewComer

2011_NewComer
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

uditha9 wrote:
milanka wrote:
uditha9 wrote:
milanka wrote:
DXB2252 wrote:i will not subscribe for this,wait and buy @ trading floor

Yes - So am i on Expo Lanka matter. Looking forward to Softlogic IPO .
same here.softlogic didnt have a private placement & it is run by trustworthy people. we could make some money there

One correction to your post . Read the softlogic PP infor here.

http://www.thesundayleader.lk/2010/03/14/a-billion-for-softlogic/
thank you for the information.according to that article ipo is going to be on next march which is in one years time. also they had a private placement after feb 8 which means they cant sell those shares for one year

That article date - Mar 14 2010. So the PP was on last year March.

According to this http://www.lbr.lk/fullstory.php?nid=20110428132700959 (dated - 28 April 2011) “We will come into the market before the 10th of June,”

Smile

199EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:24 pm

milanka

milanka
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

2011_NewComer wrote:
uditha9 wrote:
milanka wrote:
uditha9 wrote:
milanka wrote:
DXB2252 wrote:i will not subscribe for this,wait and buy @ trading floor

Yes - So am i on Expo Lanka matter. Looking forward to Softlogic IPO .
same here.softlogic didnt have a private placement & it is run by trustworthy people. we could make some money there

One correction to your post . Read the softlogic PP infor here.

http://www.thesundayleader.lk/2010/03/14/a-billion-for-softlogic/
thank you for the information.according to that article ipo is going to be on next march which is in one years time. also they had a private placement after feb 8 which means they cant sell those shares for one year

That article date - Mar 14 2010. So the PP was on last year March.

According to this http://www.lbr.lk/fullstory.php?nid=20110428132700959 (dated - 28 April 2011) “We will come into the market before the 10th of June,”

Smile

Your comments are correct .



http://forum.srilankaequity.com/u188

200EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:38 pm

milanka

milanka
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Chabbi wrote:Everybody concern on the first day sales of Pvt Plcment shares by JKH & other ventures... OK .... I'M 100% AGREE THEY CAN SELL AT VERY HIGH RETURN ....

Any one here can say in case ..... if non of them did'nt sold what would happen ???

Sad

if non of them did'nt sold what would happen ??? - Price will appricaiate then.

I am not going to subscribe becuase I am thinking about the probability of them selling during early stages. The probability is high , so I would wait and see.. and then buy from CSE. By doing this I have low risk. If price moves up then I will wait till the correct time and enter or else I will not enter at all if the price is too much.

So Chubi , think again : In the list of share holders not only JKH , softlogic ,other reputed people are there , also read and see there are set of people called as 'others ' in page 45 . And this group called as others own 130 Mn shares.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

For me its too risky , That money I could invest in some other stock.





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201EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty EXPOLANKA IPO - DO NOT INVEST? Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:58 pm

swarnasana


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Over 300 million shares given in a private placement at Rs 6.00 per share..
What will happen to the buyers who buy at Rs 14.00 at the IPO?

202EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty Re: EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:00 pm

kiri

kiri
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

swarnasana wrote:Over 300 million shares given in a private placement at Rs 6.00 per share..
What will happen to the buyers who buy at Rs 14.00 at the IPO?
http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t3116-expolanka-pre-ipo-sell-down-creates-controversy
there are more details. thanks

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avilon

avilon
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

So many negative factors.feels the IPO has a lesser interest.Is it worthy to take this IPO with a high risk.

swarnasana


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Why is Securities and Exchange Commission of Sri Lanka maintaining a deafening silence?

205EXPOLANKA HOLDINGS PLC (EXPO.N0000) - Page 8 Empty EXPOLANKA IPO Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:19 pm

swarnasana


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Why is Securities and Exchange Commission of Sri Lanka maintaining a deafening silence?

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