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21VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:40 pm

cmnet123


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@Akalanka wrote:Then VONE PRICE= RCL*51%+LFIN*51%+ SAMP*15%
=158.7*0.51+181.40*0.51+242*0.15
=209.75 almost 210

What is this calculation . i cant understand Question Question can you explain more Very Happy

If We holds a 1 VONE share we own 51% of 1 RCL share 51% of 1 LFIN sahre & 15% of 1 SAMP share. To have a true value we need to consider the individual market prices of each share for example as to buy a RCL share 158.7 has to be spent. Hope you get it. IF i'm wrong please correct me..aswel

22VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:44 pm

chamith


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
lol...
lol!

23VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:52 pm

Capt


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Smile
The Greg must be trading at;
2075 * 0.64 = 1327 ONLY because of their 64% stake in Colombo Pharmacy.
I don't know whether you are joking, trying to manipulate or really don't understand how to calculate.

24VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:07 pm

schacha


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
This must b the calculation methodology used by most retailers and that's why share price go sky even LOFC went up to 22. Very Happy
Regulators here is the point.
Just teach the retailers how to calculate share value. No need further rules and restrictions to control the market. Very Happy
It was not the manipulation. Very Happy

25VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:19 pm

Rajitha


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@cmnet123 wrote:According to the market value of its subsidiaries VOne should have a market price as follows.
As @ 2011/07/07 closing price
RCL-158.7
LFIN-181.40
SAMP-242

Then VONE PRICE= RCL*51%+LFIN*51%+ SAMP*15%
=158.7*0.51+181.40*0.51+242*0.15
=209.75 almost 210

I have not considered the investments on Delmege and Orient Garment...Please make me correct if this value is not true.I think this share is having much value than we think(most of them saying 60-65 worth). Is it worth to sell a share having a more worth than we think? Your Valuable comments are expected.

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t5916-shoe-shine-boys
No wonder about the SL market!!

26VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:50 pm

Hiru


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@cmnet123 wrote:According to the market value of its subsidiaries VOne should have a market price as follows.
As @ 2011/07/07 closing price
RCL-158.7
LFIN-181.40
SAMP-242

Then VONE PRICE= RCL*51%+LFIN*51%+ SAMP*15%
=158.7*0.51+181.40*0.51+242*0.15
=209.75 almost 210

I have not considered the investments on Delmege and Orient Garment...Please make me correct if this value is not true.I think this share is having much value than we think(most of them saying 60-65 worth). Is it worth to sell a share having a more worth than we think? Your Valuable comments are expected.

Dear friend, I do not tell you are wrong or right, but I hope you would be a successful investor if you can read more about company valuations, specially the companies up for listing. I am not going to explain anything in detail as these things can be learnt by your self if you search in Google.

These valuation models are used to determine Ordinary Shares of a Company.

1. P/E Ratio method
2. Dividend Valuation Method
3. Net Assets Value method
There are some more methods and you will see them if you are eager to study.

I believe you are not going to take the controlling power of the company at this IPO, so all three methods can be used if you know the basics and variables needed to each method.

However, you need to consider other factors also and if you give more weight to other factors influencing share prices I hope you would reach your suggested answer, my prediction is well below that.

27VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:03 am

swarnasana


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@Hiru wrote:
@cmnet123 wrote:According to the market value of its subsidiaries VOne should have a market price as follows.
As @ 2011/07/07 closing price
RCL-158.7
LFIN-181.40
SAMP-242

Then VONE PRICE= RCL*51%+LFIN*51%+ SAMP*15%
=158.7*0.51+181.40*0.51+242*0.15
=209.75 almost 210

I have not considered the investments on Delmege and Orient Garment...Please make me correct if this value is not true.I think this share is having much value than we think(most of them saying 60-65 worth). Is it worth to sell a share having a more worth than we think? Your Valuable comments are expected.

Dear friend, I do not tell you are wrong or right, but I hope you would be a successful investor if you can read more about company valuations, specially the companies up for listing. I am not going to explain anything in detail as these things can be learnt by your self if you search in Google.

These valuation models are used to determine Ordinary Shares of a Company.

1. P/E Ratio method
2. Dividend Valuation Method
3. Net Assets Value method
There are some more methods and you will see them if you are eager to study.

I believe you are not going to take the controlling power of the company at this IPO, so all three methods can be used if you know the basics and variables needed to each method.

However, you need to consider other factors also and if you give more weight to other factors influencing share prices I hope you would reach your suggested answer, my prediction is well below that.

Very Good. Telling him the correct way...

28VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:52 am

DK


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
cmnet,
Read Hiru's reply at http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t6361-vone-1st-day-price-calculation#42744.

The method you have used is correct for valuing some types of assets (and therefore stocks) but is dead wrong for others. Unfortunately in the case of VONE, it's the latter.

The method you use is what is used to value indexed funds. Why does it work there? Because by definition, the fund is nothing more than a bunch of stocks put together. You are doing nothing more than to buy a piece of that. So the valuation of the fund is exactly the price of ths shares (well there would be some commissions and other fees applied, but you get the idea).

For a company, that mechanism does not work. Why? Because holding on to other shares would not be the only action it would do. In case of VONE, they are going to build a hotel. And the share prices of the companies it hold doesnt make a material difference because they wont be selling it out.

29VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:58 am

sanjeewa88

sanjeewa88
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
You can't value the share by using this mathematical calculation.

Actually if you want to calculate it mathematically consider the number of shares them.

But remember it never gives you a real valuation.

30VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:00 am

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
@cmnet123 wrote:According to the market value of its subsidiaries VOne should have a market price as follows.
As @ 2011/07/07 closing price
RCL-158.7
LFIN-181.40
SAMP-242

Then VONE PRICE= RCL*51%+LFIN*51%+ SAMP*15%
=158.7*0.51+181.40*0.51+242*0.15
=209.75 almost 210

I have not considered the investments on Delmege and Orient Garment...Please make me correct if this value is not true.I think this share is having much value than we think(most of them saying 60-65 worth). Is it worth to sell a share having a more worth than we think? Your Valuable comments are expected.

My friend, I am presuming you are doing this calculation as you are not aware of the correct methods and not for any other reason.

As VOL is listed under Diversified sector,

a) look at it current EPS
b) define a reasonable PE compared to sector and future growth

and calculate it value. You can also consider the NAV also and look at ROE, PEG ratio etc.

Above method is not the correct way.


31VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:35 am

maalinda


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
are you serious dude ??? what a calculation... LOL.. seriously i should not laugh. but cant stop.

32VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:55 am

RichDad

RichDad
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
That's the way a professional would do it. Well done Hiru. Positive Rep. And thanks slstock.

33VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty VONE trading price Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:07 pm

UNI


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Do something for Vone on Monday...please manipulate...

34VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:09 pm

nirmal_g


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic
Will VONE be like LGL? come down upto IPO price and then shoot up after few days? experts pl advice

35VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:15 pm

duke


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
They already are trying.
Almost 80% of the buy orders are fake. Look at the last buy orders at 40 and 50 cents.

Qty price Splits
116,600 10.00 5
100,000 5.00 1
500,000 1.10 1
200,000 1.00 2
100,000 0.70 1
1,000,000 0.60 1
12,002,500 0.50 3
11,735,500 0.40 3

36VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:20 pm

tkc

tkc
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Still market is bearish for me. So lets wait and see. But I expected lot more from VONE after LOFC trading. Smile

37VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty ohhhh Vone what happend...... Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:22 pm

UNI


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Will this come to 25 level by next week?

38VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:24 pm

RichDad

RichDad
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Will VONE pattern be like VFIN or LGL?

I guess it will be like VFIN.

UNI


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
but still going down...some are telling I shall buy vone @ any price...

40VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:33 pm

RIO

RIO
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@UNI wrote:but still going down...some are telling I shall buy vone @ any price...

Buddy if you are targeting at me...then read my post again...I have mentioned clearly "I have my own predetermined price & need a parcel not in small quantities....see the link
http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t6359-who-will-buy-vone

But I changed my strategy of waiting for a parcel & collected the amount I wanted @ below the price I was determined to buy... Very Happy now its time for waiting game...sure waiting for years till my children are 18...still they are 4 & 1...Learn..., this is what called as investments cheers

41VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:45 pm

duke


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@RIO wrote:
@UNI wrote:but still going down...some are telling I shall buy vone @ any price...

Buddy if you are targeting at me...then read my post again...I have mentioned clearly "I have my own predetermined price & need a parcel not in small quantities....

But I changed my strategy of waiting for a parcel & collected the amount I wanted @ below the price I was determined to buy... Very Happy now its time for waiting game...sure waiting for years till my children are 18...still they are 4 & 1...See this is what call as investments cheers

Well in 15 years, if you buy any of the fundamentally sound but way overvalued stocks, at whatever price you buy today, they will appreciate considerably, unless the company goes bust.
But even big companies can go bust too. Borders books went bankrupt recently. I guess it was the second largest bookseller in USA.

42VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:52 pm

kam2011


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@UNI wrote:Will this come to 25 level by next week?
I do not think VONE will be traded at issue price.Never.Today VONE price hike was not as expected. That is mainly due to selling pressure of some small share shareholders who bought shares around 52000-100000(I guess)in Dec 2010 at the time of private placement was took place.They are selling their stake to gain a small margin. Under IPO, VONE issued only around 21 mn shares and today 41.8 mn shares were traded.That is much more than the IPO issued quantity.According to my view within few days price would go up.

43VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:48 pm

mcyi9rt4


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
why do you sir ask for manipulation this is reason why cse not doin well in first place sir

44VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:23 pm

uditha9


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@mcyi9rt4 wrote:why do you sir ask for manipulation this is reason why cse not doin well in first place sir
the people who manipulate &the people who are to asking to manipulate should be hammered without any interval.no mercy. afro afro

45VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:35 pm

econ

econ
Global Moderator
I think VONE may come down to IPO price in next few weeks ..

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